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    Hi all, I was thinking back to when we were planning on making the move, and keeping an eye on the forum for the stories from people who had made the move recently to get an idea of what it would feel like and how it had gone. I used to love reading about everyones experiences, so I thought I'd do one. I still can't believe weve done it! So much planning for a whole year and then suddenly youre here starting a new life. Sometimes I still get a bit overwhelmed by the fact that we're here, but only because of how amazing it is. Things are just about beginning to feel normal, we're pretty much settled and going about our daily routines, just in nicer surroundings! We (me, hubby, 2 daughters 14 and 10) left a cold Manchester on 10th Jan and landed in a very warm Perth on 11th, tired but glad to have landed safely. Myself and my eldest daughter cried upon touchdown at the enormity of what we'd just done. In the taxi to the apartment in Como we had for 2.5 weeks we were quite qiuet, just looking out of the window at the palm trees and blue sky. The first couple of weeks in the apartment are a blur now, we went to the zoo, beach, Kings Park, Fremantle, and went into Perth twice. Even though we had days out and afternoons by the pool it didnt feel like we were on holiday, it just felt like we were easing our way to our new surroundings and starting a new life. I can remember a very odd feeling of feeling as though I was walking on water for about the first week, physically I felt really unsteady on my feet. Think it was jet lag and possibly a bit of vertigo from the flight, but it went soon enough, as did the waking up bright as a button at 2.30 in the morning! We bought a car after the fist 2 weeks, but the most important thing was to find a house to rent. We wanted to be south of the river within a certain radius of the city as hubby managed to get himself a job before we came, and he wanted to cycle to work. Research and asking questions about schools in the forum led me towards Willetton, Rossmoyne, Leeming and Shelley. We looked on the propery websites and visited 2 agents to make appointments to view. We saw 4 or 5 in the end and only liked one - the only one without a pool! This really bothered me at first but I'm ok with it now. It is a 4x2 in Willetton on the top of a hill with a view of the trees and rooftops from the garden. It was newly renovated and we are the first tenants so we've been really lucky. We got accepted as tenants and picked up the keys 4 days before we left the apartment which gave us time to buy furniture and appliances etc. We had shipped our stuff from the UK but we have a couple of extra rooms here so we had to by more stuff to put in them! Also, the obligatory bbq and outdoor dining suite was a must! That all got delivered by the time we moved in so we had beds to sleep on, sofa to sit on, bbq to cook on fridge and washing machine, and a tv to watch! In the end, our container only took 7 weeks door to door so we had all our own possessions a few weeks after moving in which was great, really made it feel like home. Once we could prove that we lived in the catchment area for the schools we had to enrol for the start of the school year on 1st Feb, we found this to be very straightforward and easy process for both primary and high school. Apart from having to equip eldest daughter with an Apple macbook because all the children have to take their own laptop in and the school's system is an apple one, not pc! Eldest daughter met some girls on day 1 and got invited to sit with them for lunch, she is now part of their friendship group and has made a best friend whom she has a closer bond with than she had with any of her old friends in the UK, it is wonderful to see her so happy. BTW - If you have teenagers who stay in their room on I pads all evening / weekends - dont think that because you move over here they will suddenly become sport loving outdoors people with a basketball under one arm and a surfboard under the other! Most nights we only see her at feeding time, but she has been playing her ukelele more, drawing and chatting to her new bestie online. We try to get out at the weekends at least one day and as long as her homework is done, I dont have a problem with it, she is who she is. She is doing ok at school, we've just had parents evening and last term, predictably her grades weren't where they were when we left the UK, but I'm confident they will pick up as she gets more used to their way of working and gains more confidence. Youngest took a little while longer to settle in, the classful of new faces were a bit much for her to deal with but gradually week by week she got there. We have had 3 friends round for tea, and she has been round to 2 friends houses, she feels like she belongs now and is fitting in well. She just had yr6 camp and had a fantastic time raft building and crate tower climbing and orienteering etc. We didn't realise, but in yr6 over here they have leavers uniforms that are different to the standard school uniform so she turned up in the uniform we had bought from the uniform shop (including wide brimmed hat - so cute!) and everyone else is wearing the leavers uniforms. We felt gutted for her, but she didnt seem to mind that much. Luckily there was a re order of the leavers uniforms and she now has a shirt and jacket, it even has her name on the back as they did a re print of everyone's names, she was made up when she got it at the start of this term after Easter. She started Taekwondo in February and has her first grading for her yellow belt in June eek! After the girls started school, we concentrated on registering at centrelink for medicare and family assistance (means tested child benefit equivalent) and our drivers licences. We have since had the girls first dental appointments and doctors visit, its all really straightforward once you understand the system. I asked friends for recommendations and advice, which was really helpful. We're also sorting out our private health insurance this weekend which I think is the last piece of the puzzle in setting up over here. Hubby is settling well in to work, he didn't start until 3rd April and is just starting to find his feet, he's enjoying the cycling, ezpecially in this weather! He's going on a cycling hoiday to Margaret River with his cycling club in November! And so to me - I'm not working which is giving me plenty of time to do lots of other things! I have joined the primary school committee, I volunteer in the school canteen once a week, I help out with garden and kitchen class a couple of times a term. I have made a few friends from this forum, been out for coffess, lunch, and had bbqs and cinema, I've made friends with eldest daughters bestie's mum and went kayaking on anzac day! I'm developing friendships with a couple of the mums at school, going out for coffee, bbqs, karaoke, quiz night etc. I go for walks along the river and take a picnic for 1 and a book, so peaceful. I've restarted my hobbies of line dancing, and baking, and am enjoying having more time, having gone from working full time and not feeling that I had any. I can cook nicer meals and enjoy the weekends relaxing rather than catching up with the housework. There's lots more choice of chocolate over here, Cadburys tastes the same to me, and they have my brand of cosmetics which was a concern. Overall, life IS much better than what we had in the UK, we are not any worse off even on one wage, we have laughed and smiled more together here, the weather is incredible, blue skies nearly every day. Its nearly winter and I walked youngest to school in a t shirt and sunglasses (and trousers lo!). I acknowledge that we have been extremely fortunate with hubby getting a job and that our rental is really nice compared to the others we saw. But everything else has been of our making, the social life, the places we've visited and the friends we've made have all been by us getting ourselves out there and taking every opportunity, its there for the taking, we definitely feel more carefree and relaxed. We came out here for a fesh start and, yes, for a better life and so far it has more than delivered for all of us. We sometimes feel like weve been here longer than we have because of how quickly we feel that we've got a fuller, more satisfying life, but we can still count it in weeks! We don't know whats going to happen over the next 12 months, whether we'll be able to buy a house, or if I will have to get a job, how youngest will cope with going to high school, but thats all part of our continuing adventure. We're looking forward to exploring our new home and to whatever the rest of our lives have in store for us. Oh, and we haven't seen any spiders bigger than the average uk ones, and theres only been about 4 of them, they're not lurking under every toilet seat and in every corner!...Although we have had a lizard in the living room, and a couple of cocroaches lol! Sorry it's been a long one, if you've stuck with me till the end - thank you! If anyone has any questions about how we dealt with certain things or about anything to do with the move or setting up over here, pease ask away. Also, has anyone else got any updates after making your move,? I would love to hear your stories too. Jen xx
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    OK Neewbie, you are clearly having a dilemma about should I stay or should I go (as THE CLASH would say!) As a Migration Agent on here i must say that if your occupation is on the new STSOL you will only have 2 x 2 years on that visa. Having said that for many people who really want to stay they often find a way, either by retraining ie getting a student visa or moving to remote areas. My husband is a specialist BDM/WA Territory Manager and was made redundant in February! Your husband is very lucky to be sponsored in that kind of role as there are lots of excellent sales managers out there who are looking for work in WA. Many people move here who have never even set foot on Australian soil and realise that the dream isnt quite what they thought it was. Others step foot off the plane, thrive here and never leave. You are both still under 40 and I really believe in following dreams and giving things a go. However you and your husband sound like a couple who seem fairly contented with a comfortable life style, enjoy each others company and seem to have a close group of friends nearby. I am a little surprised that you even started this "quest!" You ask for positives, well I a sure that I speak for many on here and say that we live in a beautiful, clean, safe city with a fantastic climate and amazing ocean. Every day when I walk my dog at the foreshore I think how lucky I am. My teenage daughters are at the local State High School and are hopefully going to one of our excellent universities. I thought a photo of a beautiful Perth sunset (not enhanced at all!) may let you see what we have here. However, it is not for everyone and as an agent I often see troubled marriages, discontentment, and homesickness......
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    We dont watch any of that stuff....fortunately. Dont worry, we lived in NZ for 8 years, there is no way it can be that bad!!
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    When I first came to Australia - quite a few years ago sticky tape or sellotape was called durex. Was quite an eye opener first time in the office here and someone said pass the durex lol
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    I dont want to sound like a pessimist, but I am a realist, given Perths current "Recession" & all the visa changes, I wouldn't be moving over on a 457 any time soon, the freight / trucking industry is one of the hardest hit with the mining slow down, nothing needs moving north, there are a lot of unemplyed people in Perth and the new McClown Govt is all for getting them jobs jobs before you, I work at Perth Airport, the FIFO fleet are only doing half the flying they were doing 3 years ago, some of the smaller companies have gone belly up or pulled the plug, even Qantas moved their turboprop fleet back east, I am even starting to worry about my job, sorry for being a realist, but I have seen a lot of 457 sponsored families leaving Perth with their tail between their legs, given the current climate 457 should really not be an option, I came over on a 457 6 years ago, during the boom, it was tough then, my wife couldnt get a job, my son struggled to get an apprenticeship, my daughter even decided to retrain, she has just completed a self study Cert IV, took her 3 years, and that was after doing a 5 Year Uni Degree in the UK, so now she has a massive student loan debt in the UK and a degree which is useless in Perth, maybe if she even moves to Melbourne or Sydney it will come in usefull, what ever you decide, good luck..............
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    Hi, we came out 5 months ago, house sold, leaving all our family and friends behind and started from scratch with two daughters 14 and 10. We are on PR though and don't know whether we'd have done it on a 457. Maybe though, for the life experience and you never know it could lead to PR. We do feel that life is better for us here, mainly due to the weather and the extra time outdoors it brings. We lost my full time wage so income wise we are worse off but seem to be managing for now. We will rent for a couple of years and then see if we can afford to buy. I plan to look for a job next year when youngest starts high school. We are south of the river in a 4x2 20 mins from Perth and about 30 mins from Fremantle and Coogee. Check realestate.com.au for rental and house prices, think the areas you've mentioned are quite expensive. It has been worth it for us but only you can decide if its right for your family. You don't want to regret pulling out only to wish you'd done it 6 months down the line. Best of luck
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    So, we are nearly 15 months in and these are my observations on a practical day to day level not the whole heart felt leaving family etc I'll put our feeling down in another post, I will start by telling you I'm a 46 year old bloke here with wife and two kids aged 3 (nearly) and 7. I'm in the motortrade currently working as a Tech at a great garage in Rockingham. These are my thoughts, you may not agree and have different views and experience. Some of mine are negative and some are positive. WA. - We live in Baldivis south of the river and spend a lot of time in Mandurah due to being into boating. The beaches are beautiful the coast is fabulous. If you are into the outdoors then this is the place to be. I am astounded by the free boat ramps, trailer parking, outdoor BBqs, fabulous parks, free parking, camping sites, places to visit that do not cost anything, the list goes on of stuff to do, plus the free events that are put on. Everything is really child friendly and I dont think Ive been to an event where there are drunk teenagers playing up like there used to be at home. (We did live in a deprived part of the country). The sun shines most days and even in winter on a sunny day the temperature can get to mid twenties. However because its a dry climate once you get acclimatized it feels much colder, so when its 15 degrees here it feels more like 4 or 5 did back in the UK, so out come the jumpers!! Last year at this time I would go out for my early morning run and think how warm it was, this year I think its bloody freezing! Ha CARS and Driving. The cars are sh*t, if you think you are going to come here and buy yourself a nice little ten year old Peugeot 206 for £1500 like you had in UK , forget it!! The WA car fleet is old and I would estimate that 50% are either partly maintained to poorly maintained. There is no MOT and no requirement to maintain your car unless you are unlucky enough (unlikely) to get stopped by the police and "stickered" to get whatever they find rectified, as long as you pay your "rego" on time just keep driving. European cars like Peugeot, Renault are not popular, VW group have more a foot hold and slightly more popular however parts for European cars are expensive and a rip off. There are a lot of Japanese and Korean cars. The older jap stuff is fab and as they dont rot like they did in the UK youll see a lot of stuff from the early to mid 90's still on the road as peoples daily drivers, they will still want upwards of a grand when they sell them. Back in the UK some of these cars are turning up at classic car shows. I wouldnt buy a korean car over ten years old, except maybe the Hyundai Getz for a run around. I have seen cars with the canvas and metal hanging out of the tyres, rear diff oil leaking over the brakes so that only the fronts work only for customers to say that they dont have the money to fix them and drive away promising they wont drive them (yeah right). My advice buy the newest car you can afford preferably something Australian, Commodore or Falcon seem to be pretty cheap to maintain and on the whole reliable. Petrol is cheaper here than the UK, when we arrived it was half price that of the UK but has crept up a bit. Diesel isnt as popular here although readily available, V6 and V8 petrol cars are still very popular here and there are some beauties. How the Hoons afford to leave all that Rubber on the road is beyond me, Tyres are just as expensive here as UK The Aussies are terrible drivers, it astounds me that in state where the speed limit on the freeway is 62 MPH and the freeways for the most parts are two lanes how many crashes they have!! They drive too close and when you are doing the 100KPH limit someone up your arse so you move out of the way only for them to sit alongside you doing the same speed!! Theres been a number of times when Ive been ready for a row with someone who appears to be driving like an idiot only for them to be totally oblivious to how annoyed ive got at their driving!! There seems to be a lot of deaths on the road and a lot of is put down to drink driving, they appear to be 20 years behind with their drink driving thinking. The people - The people on the whole are friendlier on a daily basis than the UK. When your out and about people say "HI" more than UK. However, once you start working for Aussies, or want them to do work for you, or buy something second hand like a car they have no morals and will screw you over without a second thought! The first guy I worked for paid me short, regularly and when I spoke to him about it he tried to tell me it would even itself out, err no if you only pay me 37/1/2 hours and I work 40 how will that ever even out?? Also only paid from 8 to 12 Saturdays but didnt expect you to leave until after 1!! Had the attitude that if you wont do it then someone else will, I lasted 3 weeks before telling him his fortune! Aussie tradies want to do as little work for maximum dollar and even in the current climate I still find thats their attitude, however when you do work for them they want to pay minimum dollar for maximum work. If you look on Gumtree and Facebook for second hand stuff they want far too much for stuff, some people want near on retail new price for SH stuff. Ive also bought stuff where Ive turned up and tried to haggle and been told thats the price mate Im not knocking anything off but the advert said ONO!!!! I'm into my cars and I like doing up broken ones and keeping them for a bit, ive seen a couple that I wanted to buy to do up and have negotiated a price and asked the questions has it been involved ina crash, do you owe any money on it etc to be told no they were ligit, only to check them and discover they had finance on them, when I challenged the owners they both said that they were going to pay off the finance when I paid for the cars, yeah right course you were!! They also dont really have the same sense of humour as us, I mean, theyve never heard of Only Fools and horses, Black adder or the Inbetweeners!! The government - Australia, in general, and WA is a nanny state, I hear adverts all the time, on how to stop your child being injured at home, "Make sure you check the bath water before you put a small child in", Dont drink and drive, dont drive over train crossing when the lights are flashing and the latest one I heard was that you should go to bed early to avoid being tired when driving, it actually says try going to bed before 9PM, WTF, are Aussies really that stupid they need the government to tell them when to go to bed!! The government bodies that you will come into contact with have got that attitude that they used to have in the UK 30 years ago before they became more customer focused after realising that it was the public who funded the department but also paid extra for their particular services. The Department of transport for example is a bizzare step back in time as you go to change ownership of your car and take a ticket and sit and wait for your number to be called only for there to be a sour faced old cow behind the counter who treats you like you're wasting her time and shes doing you a favour!! If like me you dont want to give your child the MMR vaccine, then the government wont give you the family allowance payment, they also wont allow you to send your child to any preschool/Kindy either until they are vaccinated. Apparently it puts other children at risk however if other children have had the vaccines and mine havent the only risk is to other children who havent had the vaccines!! I wont go into my reasons for not wanting the MMR but as a parent this is my choice and I should not be dictated to by the government. If you ever have the misfortune of taking your personal import car to Welshpool DOT for its inspection then here you will reach a new level of A*sehole who take great delight in failing your car/trailer etc for no reason other than they can and it makes their day. In fact the guy I used to import my car was from over East, Sydney, and when I told him i was bringing them into Perth he said , and I quote, "they are all a*seholes over there, the docks,the customs and the DOT its the worst place to get anything through" and he wasnt wrong. The only government officials I've come across who have been courteous are the police and most of them have been from the UK. HOUSING The houses are nice, you get more for your money here, although the blocks are getting smaller for new builds. Not really sure why when they have some much space other than to maximise profit. However we have just bought a 4 by 2 house on an 800sqm block with pool and workshop for less than we sold our 3 bed semi for in the UK. the buying process is nicer, once signed you cant get gazumped as long as you meet the contract dates. If the owner hasnt told you something doesnt work and they are selling it as not working then it has to work. for example I did the final inspection last week for the house we are buying and one of split cycle A/C motors didnt work and the pool gate didnt shut properly, now in the UK i would of just accepted this as thats how it is but not here! The estate agent said they got to be fixed before we take ownership!! Refreshing. Schools- Our littlen goes to Baldivis primary school which is a state school, its is lovely and I think her class has 22 children in it. If you come from a large city in the UK then you will not be disappointed with the class sizes here. Our little girl had also been at school for a year before coming here and having to start year one again but there is still stuff on the curriculum to challenge her and I dont find the education system behind. I have found that here they seem more focused on the journey to adult hood than focused on training them to pass exams parrot fashion. She seems happy and is always coming home with some reward for being the top reader or top in maths so that year head start has put her top of the class which is nice boost for her confidence. I dont know a lot about the secondary schools but it seems to be if you can afford it send them to a private school. WORK/JOBS - I'd say WA is on its knees for work, especially trades. In my industry the only jobs available seem to be the lower end of the spectrum, the fast fit lower skilled end where there tends to be a high turn over of staff anyway. Having said that i've managed to get a good job at a nice place, but there is a lot of competition out there and Ive realised it isnt what you know but who you know . If you want to get a job in government beware that the higher paid jobs require you to be a citizen however the lower paid jobs and those they have trouble recruiting for, Ie Police officer, even if you have the skills and qualifications, that being "a citizen" or being in the throws of" becoming a citizen" clause is chucked in. If you want to change careers or do something different, good luck, as you'll need courses and qualifications before you even get a chance at having a go, I dont believe there is such a thing here as on the job training. They'll be a college course that you have to pay for before you even try and get a job! Shops/Shopping - Not so many big supermarkets as in the UK selling everything like Tesco and Asda.You still get the little shops and off licences albeit some of them are part of the big companies. I applaud the Aussies for their Buy Aussie spirit however they are being let down by their government who has allowed some big business to move over sees. Now they have no option but to allow foreign companies in to sell theyre stuff. Ultimately this will be good for consumers but not so good for workers and small business. The shops close at 5.30 in the week accept for some of the bigger companies who are open to 9, our local spud shed has just gone 24 hours, the only shop I know of thats 24 hours. Thursday is late night shopping just like it was 30 years ago in the UK. The thing I love about the shops is that they arent open 24 hours for that one insomniac to go shopping at three AM but at the same time it annoys me that when I've forgotten our wedding anniversary if its not a Thursday I'm in proper trouble. Crime- The Aussies seem to be paranoid about crime, shutters on windows, house alarms etc but, I was a police officer in the UK for 16years before coming here and let me tell you they do not know what crime is here! The things that get reported on the nightly news here would be lucky to get a spot in the local rag at home. Yes there are burglaries, car thefts, assaults and robberies but they are nothing compared to the UK considering the size of the Perth metro area So if you are still with me thus far, well done, and I'd now like to point out that I'm not a whinging Pom, some of these things annoy me but its a damn sight better than where we lived in the UK. Our lifestyle and quality of life has drastically improved and I really like it here and, at this point, do not intend to go back. Yes, we miss family and friends and if they could be here that would make it perfect. Jase
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    And the term 'Manchester' came about because that was what was written on the side of the crate when it arrived from the UK.
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    This is going to sound like I have a down on Australia and I really don't. But, it doesn't offer any "better" future for kids, just a different one. There are pluses and minuses to both and others which are the same. For example, unemployment for young people is about the same, there are still issues with drugs and crime. Both countries offer fantastic opportunities for kids, but personally, I don't think one offers more than the other.
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    Thank you so much for the info, its a process for real. Even the 457 visa with a temporary stay of 4 years will be good for me. I need a test of the technology overseas. Will check on the website to see if my occupation is still on.
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    As I said earlier, the rules for business sponsorship has recently changed drastically. Unless you can offer something that an employer cannot find in Australia, the chances of getting sponsorship are very slim, especially in Western Australia.
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    Without a valid visa to live and work in Australia, you will find it next to impossible to get any employer to show any interest in you, especially if you are coming to Western Australia as there is currently an economic downturn in process and unemployment is high. The visa rules for business sponsorship have changed drastically of late, so if you are hoping for employment through that route, you would be best advised to read through the latest information on the Department of Immigration and Border Protection website. www.border.gov.au
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    We brought everything with us....even crap we didn't want... we have more TV's than radio rentals... I have not been able to get them to pick up OZ tv, so I went and got some of those cheap digi boxes from Harvey norms for $38 each. We got the usual big tv for the lounge new here and Foxtel for that room... the UK TV's are in bedrooms and out on the patio. I'm now a dab hand at fitting new plugs... everything works fine and has probably saved a heap of time and cash over replacing electrical items. for some reason the DAB radios don't seen to want to find any signal here... so its FM for now. As for banking, we just waltzed into the NAB while on holiday 5 years ago...flashed out passport as id and bobs ya uncle we had accounts.... simples.
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    I think she said the child was 7 verystormy so they would only be 11 years old. Still a very good point though as they will be settled with friends/clubs etc and will have to up sticks. That said, whilst I'd never move a child during important exams I do in general think if the parents want to move then the children go too and that's how it goes.
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    Fantastic read and a big help - thanks for taking the time to do that.
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    Personally I would stick closer to Joondalup and echo Druid's thoughts. As the parent of teenagers they would be mortified if I moved them to Alkimos. Nothing there, have to travel to anything and I would spend my entire life being a taxi driver, more than I do already!! When we moved I didn't want to be any further north than Burns Beach road or any further East than Wanneroo Rd.
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    It's a high socioeconomic area and as usual in these areas the schools are normally good. I have no direct experience but from an education point of view I would imagine you would have no issues.
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    You automatically have dual citizenship. You must travel on an Australian passport to leave and enter Australia. If you don't have a British passport on entering the UK you will be issued a 3 month visa.
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    There has been some excellent replies to your post. The things I would say about this move is this; moving away from everything you know can be very exciting and/or very daunting and unless you are both up to putting lots of effort in I wouldn't entertain it. From your post it sounds like this what your husband wants and not you, it really has to be a joint adventure. The visa type you have has been touched upon here and you really need to see this as a temporary move. If somehow some magic can be done down the line and you manage to stay then ok but right now you have to see it for what it is. You say you've sold up to start a new life in Oz. You don't have a visa for a new life in Oz, only a temporary stay. On that basis you need to be happy to take yourself, child and dog to the other side of the world and back again over a period of a few years. The cost of this move, including education (not sure if you get Medicare on this visa) is huge. Some people have lots of money and those costs aren't important, I have no idea whether they are to you. Your husband may well have rose tinted glasses on and many do but what stood out to me is it appears it's what he wants but what about what you want? Employment is bad in WA and the reality is he will be off doing his new job and you will be at home alone although hopefully you will get work eventually. It is harder on that visa as many employers want someone who's likely to stay. The final thing I would mention and it's never a nice thing to say but be aware of The Hague convention. I'm sure it would never happen although many have thought that but if you were all out there and you wanted to return to the uk but your husband didn't then your child would be stuck there unless your husband agreed to them returning back to the uk. You would not be allowed to take your child back to the uk without his permission. Horrible to mention but there's people out there that this has happened to and they'd have been grateful for knowledge prior to going I'm sure. I wish you luck in whatever you chose.
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    Ali she will need to apply for any positions advertised on the government website https://jobs.wa.gov.au I suggest that she visits any schools she wants to work in and asks to meet the Principal... takes along her Resume and any reports from her Pracs. She also needs to keep in contact with any teachers who were her mentors when she was doing her Pracs, as they will also help her. So many teachers are coming up to retirement, but with the economy in WA as it is, I do wonder how that will go.... but your daughter just needs to be "out there" and promoting herself and I am sure that she will gain a position. Having said that, she might need to consider that teaching in a rural position for a while will be very advantageous for her career. Too many newly trained teachers will not go rural because they want to stay in Perth near family and friends, and I totally get that, but if you are serious about a career, I think you should be open to any opportunity that will give you experience.
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    My SIL is a Manager within the logistics industry in WA and he is telling me that work is slowing down majorly for his company and they are laying people off It is good that you are telling it as it is. I have been saying for the past 4 or 5 years that the mining industry was going south in WA and people should be wary of 457 visas, but I was told on this and other forums that I didn't know what I was talking about. Seems I was right though. The economy in WA is not good, and if you are thinking of coming here on a 457 visa then you need to really think it through carefully and be prepared that the job you are coming to could end and you will have to go back to your country of origin within 60 days. Jobs for Australians are getting harder to get and employers still employing are looking for employees with permanent residency. If you have a unique talent or qualification that cannot be provided in Australia, you might be OK, but I would still think very carefully and negotiate your visa and contract with your future employer.
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    You need to start it now! You are already pushing it timing wise! Yes there is a risk, but, this isn't something that can be left until last minute. There is a fair bit of processing and don't forget the pooch will need to go to quarantine and Perth doesn't have one, so he / she will have to go to Melbourne or Sydney, do their quarantine and be transported back west. Give Pet Air a call, Bob is the MD and is a regular member of the forum and they are the only pet shipping company ran by vets.
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    I agree with Jen78 best to take everything you can fit. A big part of emigrating is being able to settle. Putting the kids to bed in their own bed with their own dooner (quilt), and just having your own familiar stuff around helped us a lot. Also it's so expensive to buy everything new again. It adds to your stress. A smart TV tends to be bundled with UK stuff like iPlayer which won't work, and the local apps like ABC iView won't show up. The menus and scheduling might struggle a bit too. But you can still watch Aussie TV shows no problem. All electricals will work really. Just need new plugs. Bank account is easy though you will have to fully activate it in person at a branch when you arrive. Prior to that you can deposit money into it but not much else. Recommend you call Commonwealth Bank (London) 020 7710 3990 and ask if they still do their 'London Transfer Account'. This was for people emigrating; a one-time deal where Commonwealth transferred your money without any fees. I used it but I'm not sure it's still on offer.
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    Make sure your occupation is on Schedule 1, otherwise you will only ever be able to get 2 , 2 year visas with PR being extremely unlikely
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    The 457 aside as we came on an independent PR visa - our quality of life is excellent here (we had a good one in the UK too), but as I've said in previous posts the one thing that we feel we've benefited from as a family is the amount of time we've spent together here in Aus and the quality of that was an improvement from the UK. We have a feeling of contentment here that we'd not had previously and for us the move has been worth it. My daughter (now 22) says that she was glad to have had her teenage years here in Aus. We arrived in WA, with two children 7, 11 a cat and about 7 suitcases. Like you we'd sold our house and knew no-one in WA, so also had no support network or friends. We haven't looked back and for us the move has been worth it. We both took a step back in roles in our jobs and a pay initially, as sometimes you have to step back to move forwards and get your foot in a door. Remember to be realistic, it takes time to establish friendships, that's what I missed in the early days - but now have a fantastic group of friends who have become our surrogate family. I think you're right to be nervous - it's a massive move and the recent changes for 457's with some jobs not being able to progress to PR is a fraught one. Having said that, if your hubby's job is one that can progress to PR, then it's something that lost of people have managed to do. Have a look at coles and woolworths on line shopping - it will give you an idea of costs for food. I'm not sure how much school fees are for the 457 visa holders, and there are additional school costs for books etc.,
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    well, you say nothing is permanent and that is certainly true of 457 visas. It is important you fully appreciate this is a temporary visa and has no automatic path to anything else, in fact they have just made it harder to obtain a permanent visa for 457 holders. it is not a visa I recommend for families because of its issues. I am hoping you are aware it is tied to the employer and should he lose his job for any reason, you would all have 60 days to leave the country. I certainly would not recommend buying a property. There are also other issues such as you will be charged 4000 per year for education and partners of 457 holders can have difficulty getting work - bear in mind WA is in recession at the moment. As for is it worth it. That will vary a lot for different people and for different reasons. Oz is a very nice place, though it is still just another first world country with first world pluses and misuses. You still have to clean the toilet, buy the groceries and all the usual stuff With costs, it depends on what you are used to. Though generally, if he has taken a pay cut, then unless you are moving from an expensive part of the south east England it will seem expensive.
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    Hi Von ,Scarborough. Best to meet in the day for a coffee Hillarys is a good meeting place at Dome as lots of free parking and nice coffee. Or Mullaloo again free parking at Dome. Do you live far from either location? Are you also interested in meeting for chat and coffee sometime? Oz Dollar.
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    It was very easy to open an account from the UK (we used Westpac) - just did it by phone. Call into your Westpac branch and ask them about transferring an account if your happy with them, alternatively, just give them a ring here.
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    Where abouts in the north as I l ive there too. X Sent from my SM-G900I using Tapatalk
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    Bring as much as you can, you won't regret it and you can have another clear out once you've settled. We took apart our Dyson hoover and put it through the dishwasher the day before the removals company came. We brought our tumbler but got rid of the hose at the back only to find they don't stock them here so had to get a replacement shipped from uk. Our TV was about 10 years old so we've just got it hooked up to our old DVD player in the spare living room, great for the kids at weekends. We bought new for the main living area. Re varnish any wood, and clean any bikes etc with strong smelling detergent so they can smell it when they open the container Bring blankets, and warm clothes, don't get rid, you'll need them in the winter. Can't think of much else. Jen
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    I had a big chuckle at that @Warbro...... Malaga is another one that makes me chuckle too...... Named after the city of Malaga in Spain, it is pronounced Malarga!
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    Called Skilled Migration yesterday, they have as yet still not been informed of new lists! May not come util until new FY
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    Hi Jase, great read and it's nice that I can relate to the updates now! Great news about your house, wish the prices were like that in Willetton! I heard the 9pm bedtime curfew advert on Friday and thought it was a joke... until I realised it wasn't! And I agree with Ali about the driving, you can't always tell the nationality of the bad drivers, but its more the parking I find! Glad you've settled in well and your daughter is happy at school. None of your comments sounded whingey, just an honest evaluation of situations you've found. Life is still life, even if its sunny outside there are going to be the odd everyday stresses. There is more crime here than I thought there'd be, and I'm surprised by the size of the drug problem tbh I'm desperately trying to get my daughters' immunisations up to date to get the family assistance, needs to be done by end of June, think they might need the chicken pox one even though they've both had chicken pox. Crazy! Jen x
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    Interesting read - although it always makes me smile when people say Aussie drivers as if all the bad drivers are Australian - i'm not sure how people can tell a nationality when they're sat in a car ... always think it reads better as 'drivers in Aus' to encompass the diverse nationalities that make up WA. Regarding secondary schools, I think it depends on the area's you live also - some may not have a reputable state school and I don't think that private is necessarily better, with some excellent state secondary schools. Personally, I think it's about getting the right fit for your child for some that's private and others public. We were lucky to live in an area with a good secondary school which met my children's differing needs - my daughter was academic (and they had an extension programme) whilst my son is sporty and has been able to study sports coaching and outdoor education - getting his skippers ticket this year. Glad you've settled though and the frustrations haven't made you want to go back to the UK.
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    I love all the little idiosyncracies of language.... makes life interesting.
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    Hi Linda, I am older than you and live in Scarborough. I would be interested. Julie
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    Oh, and I don't think I could ever call a vest top a 'singlet'!
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    the rego only covers 3rd party for injury to people. Does not cover any damage to vehicles.
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    I have a client who may be prepared to sponsor qualified chefs, will be a live in position for single person. Must be onshore and able to go for a trial, so must have working conditions on current visa. If interested please email me your resume camilla@newlifedownunder.com.au
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    All considered high socio-economic areas and usually with that comes good schools. As for the sporting aspect check out http://footballwest.com.au/ and http://www.gymnasticswa.asn.au/ to find out about local clubs.
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    Yes, traffic lights go from red to green.... but Perth drivers still sit waiting for a colour they like before moving.... capsicum....... still a pepper in my books. light bulbs.....globes
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    Hi Jen, Thanks for posting this, its a great account and really reassuring. My wife and I have been contemplating moving over for years. We have a permanent residency VISA which expires in February 2018 so I am flying out on Friday for a week to visit and research some schools to help us decide to make the move. Your post really does help us feel as though we can make a success of it. Congratulations. Kind regards Simon
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    What a great read Jen - so happy you've all settled and finding your feet x
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    Hi my partner is a heating engineer/plumber we emigrated one year ago. He found it difficult getting enrolled on the gap migrant plumbing course to get his wa plumbing license. The course was canceled 3 times as there was not enough people booked on it. He is currently at college which is gonna take him 6 months to get his plumbing and gas ticket. I'm not writing this to put you off but just to make you aware it's not as simple as they make it out to be but just to be prepared. Good luck with you're move 😊
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    Hi, if you're considering around the Bull Creek area then Rostrata Primary in Willetton is excellent, you have to live in Willetton catchment area though. This would then lead on to Willetton Senior High School which has a very good reputation. I have daughters in both schools and would recommend both. Think Willetton out performed Rossmoyne for results last year. Jen
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    Didn't read the OP properly, apologies.
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    We always say that the biggest bonus has been the time spent together as a family in our time here. I agree with Stormy regarding the hours and annual leave but despite that, our time together (the children were 7 and 11 when we moved) possessed a quality that we didn't achieve in the UK, not so much in activities (although we did those), but little things like being able to sit out every weekend having dinner - which turned into hours chatting, playing games etc.
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    Hi Jen, From my experience, i would say that he should have bought a lottery ticket the same day, and neither of you would have ever had to work again! I contacted dozens of agencies before i left the UK, and not one of them ever acknowledged me. I rather put it down to them not wanting to expend time and effort on a migrant who hadn't as yet arrived and may not ever do so, which i thought was understandable. So i was not too disheartened. However that total lack of interest, and i would say manners, continued when i got here. Hays, who is one of the biggest, were without doubt, the worst. I rang the agent specific to Process and Chemical Engineers on a number of occasions, and he never once returned the call. I sent them my CV a number of times, and i even went in to their offices to see if i could see him personally, and again i was told in no uncertain way to go away. And this was in July 2014, before the 'recession' had even begun to bite. I am amazed that BHP picked your husband up in this way, and cannot explain it, but can only congratulate you on your success. Does he need any more engineers? I have had four jobs here, since i arrived. The first was working on the New Royal Adelaide Hospital that was being built. They were so far behind, and delivery of services was so late, that i literally spent six months walking around site, twiddling my thumbs, because there was no power to allow us to start commissioning, before my company decided to pull the plug, and lay me off. Have a look at the press reports on the job to see what i mean. The second company took me on with big noises of their desire for expansion, but what they didn't say was that a few months prior to me starting, a high up employee left to set up a rival business, taking most of the staff and clients with them. So within the first week there, i found out that most of the other people around me were also new starters, and five months into the job, with no contacts, and obviously scraping around for work, the board pulled the plug and myself and a number of others were laid off, again. The third job was a contract position, much more along my previous experience, required that i work in Indonesia, on a completely ad hoc rota basis, hence the 10 - 12 hours/day, 7 days/week, 6 - 7 weeks/tour. This job was also over a year late, used completely incompetent sub-contractors, who literally read drawings upside down, went on strike for more pay, and we were eventually required to leave the country because the company had sent us to site with the wrong Visas, so we could have been arrested at any time for illegally working. Once back, my work was done, but my colleagues returned, still with the wrong visas, and were confined to the office for a week, not allowed to go out on site, before eventually leaving the country again. As far as i am aware, the job is still not complete, and is now 2 years late. And my most recent job was washing cars at a dealership. Not a lot to say about that really, except that i am prepared to do anything to save us from going under. My experience here has been one of completely incompetent and unprofessional companies, with no regard for their employees, and willing to lay people off at the drop of a hat. And my fiancee is on her second job, enjoying it and doing well. But her first job was as a senior manager with Australia's answer, so they think, to John Lewis, and they were so unprofessional, disorganised, bullying, and sexist, that despite nearly thirty years experience in retail, twenty of them with John Lewis, she left because she couldn't continue working under such crushing conditions. Oh, and despite her improving her departments turnover by some 150%, and a 400% increase in Card Sales, they let her go without ever attempting to find out why, or trying to convince her to stay. Absolutely unbelievable! But despite all this, i still want to make a go of it here. We thought long and hard before coming out here, and it has cost us a HUGE amount of money. We had good reasons for leaving the UK, and i have no desire to return, so i am not in any way biased for UK. It is just that this experience is a million miles from what we thought it was going to be. We couldn't have been more wrong. EVERYTHING, hangs on getting some work.
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    Hi guys, thank you for your replies. John, i have PM'd you and would welcome any names of companies or people that you can suggest. Jen, thank you for your well meaning advice but i have already been here nearly three years and have been struggling with this situation all this time. The simple fact is that the job market here does not work like it does in the UK. The agencies are a complete waste of time. I haven't come across a single one yet that is actually interested in you as a client, and finding you work. They see their client as being the employer, not the potential employee. They select candidates entirely on 'buzz' words, and there is absolutely no application of 'lateral' thinking. Add to this a fashion for ludicrously specific job descriptions and requirements, stupid qualifications and licences for literally every job you can think of, and you are left with a situation whereby a newcomer can only get employed if they have done the exact same job before. Oh, and it has to have been with a company, not only in Australia, but in Western Australia, because lots of the job descriptions require specifically, Western Australian experience. Further add in to the mix a complete disregard by employers for non-Australian experience, references from any companies that they haven't specifically heard of, and a tendency for nepotism, and you are left with a situation whereby a new comer can only get a job if they know someone within that company that can personally recommend and vouch for them. As a result, new ideas, ways of thinking, and working practices, just do not take hold in Australia, which is why they are still so far behind the Western World. It is such an enormous shame since Australia is so full of potential and has such great advantages, that they will just never realise. So Jen, please forgive the rant, i am as you can imagine, absolutely sick of this situation, and i believe me, i agree that you must try to find out the names of those in charge at the potential company, and target them specifically with phone calls, email, and if possible, in person. Unfortunately, it has been my experience, and that of som many others that we know, that if that person does not know you, then again, they will just ignore your communication. I rather came here, not for advice specifically, but to find Poms out there that may own their own businesses, that might need an extra pair of hands for a while, or Poms that might be in a position in their companies to be able to recommend another Pom for a chance at a job. I wish i didn't have to do this, but it seems that expats sticking together is the only way that they will flourish here. And before anyone says, i do not feel that these problems are specifically due to the economic downturn. I feel that they are systemic and endemic to, certainly Western Australia, if not to Australia as a whole.
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    My son attends a 'dodgy' school here and has done nothing but thrive. He's in year 2 and there has never been a day when he's got up in the morning and not wanted to go in. Debs
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