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Very sad news....

 

looks like she may have taken her own life....RIP

 

Hope anyone out there struggling feeling lonely, isolated, or feeling hopeless, please talk to someone, share your thoughts....don't struggle along alone.

 

Pea

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Yes its sad, people can be tormented/tortured for all reason, some will share others will not. The people who really want to end it never ever shows the signs. It might take a couple of attempts but they will find the way in the end if their mind is fixed and focused. They can mask symptoms from professionals even though professionals know that the person is very unwell. Unfortunately if the criteria for help is not met hands are tied so to speak. The people who cry "i want to die" are the ones that will always live to a ripe old age.

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Very sad news indeed.

I guess there is always someone in a worse position than yourself but unfortunatley you don't hear about it until its too late.

Never felt like taking my own life, felt like taking plenty away from others. I guess thats normal though. I bottle that feeling and call it stress.

Thanks for PM Peanuts, all 'ok' with the 'Things'!

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Yes its sad, people can be tormented/tortured for all reason, some will share others will not. The people who really want to end it never ever shows the signs. It might take a couple of attempts but they will find the way in the end if their mind is fixed and focused. They can mask symptoms from professionals even though professionals know that the person is very unwell. Unfortunately if the criteria for help is not met hands are tied so to speak. The people who cry "i want to die" are the ones that will always live to a ripe old age.

 

Unfortunately some people, however tortured/tormented they are, will not share, as you say. I never really got that until a very close family member was going through a severe depression that was verging on suicide, until his wife came to me for help as she didn't know what to do any more to support him. He was one of my foster kids who had done so well to pull himself out of the what his life had become.... I was his surrogate Mum and I didn't see it.... but his wonderful wife talked to me and then I actually did something I always said I wouldn't do with my kids (both my own and my foster ones) I interfered..... I literally dragged him to counselling...he thought we were going out for a lunch date.... 10 years later he now thanks me for being so proactive. However we can all hide how we really feel from the people we love... but why do we do that?

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Its a strange thing, that I suppose most of us cannot understand as we have not been in the situation but with working in mental health and doing our dissertations this year my friend and I got talking about suicide. She is writing hers on whether we should as professionals, interfere and try and stop someone who actively wants to take their own lives if they have the capacity to do so, or not... Its complex and certainly a huge ethical debate. Some people just cannot find happiness in this world, some people would prefer to take their lives than live the shame of having to admit to mistakes they have made...

 

As Elfie said, a psychologist I was working with told me the people who are the highest risk of committing suicide are unfortunately the ones who don't say anything. I have just spent 3 months working in the ED at a hospital here assessing people who may have just tried to take their lives and during this 3 months alone several people successfully took there own lives and nearly all of them had no prior history of being under mental health services.

 

The hardest thing to understand and try and bear in mind is that the individual is now at peace, something they are likely not to have felt for a very long time.

 

:-(

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