Scotgirl09 Posted May 16, 2014 Report Share Posted May 16, 2014 (edited) Thanks for all help everyone! Edited May 20, 2014 by Scotgirl09 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ali Posted May 16, 2014 Report Share Posted May 16, 2014 I think you need a different qualification here (not 100% though - hopefully someone can answer this), re doing the course here - does the WHV allow you to do that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weedolly Posted May 17, 2014 Report Share Posted May 17, 2014 http://www.plumbers.wa.gov.au/Content/Licensing/Overseas_Applicants.html Probably not worth it only for a year. Dont bother doing his UK gas ticket again wont be any good. He might get a job as a Trade Assistant without a licence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest10912 Posted May 17, 2014 Report Share Posted May 17, 2014 Hi all new to this site :ssign2: Me and my hubby (plumber) are coming over on a working holiday visa in November We have had to come over on a working holiday visa, unfortunately as he has been out of his trade in the uk for 4years now due to lack of demand the question is ... Chances of working as a plumber on this visa? What are the courses recommended to transfer his qualifications?? Also do we waste ££ at this end in scotland as his Gas certificate has expired ? Should he re sit this before we come over?? We have visited perth on holiday and fell in love , so any help would be appreciated thank you x I really wouldn't bother. You are over for a long holiday, why waste your time on stuff like this. Enjoy yourselves and pick up bar work and odd jobs as the visa is intended for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotgirl09 Posted May 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2014 I really wouldn't bother. You are over for a long holiday, why waste your time on stuff like this. Enjoy yourselves and pick up bar work and odd jobs as the visa is intended for. Hi everyone thanks for the replies, I had mentioned before , due to the fact he hasn't been in his trade in the uk for the 4years, (maybe didn't mention this part )but we are unable to get a state sponsorship visa because of that reason and have been advised to come over on working holiday visa. Believe me if we could do the state sponsorship visa this would definitely be the route we would take Because We have already visited & are wanting to look at the possibility of immigration one day but as I do know , it certainly isn't going to be easy and it isn't even easy just to come over & get bar work you need a licence in bar work too now for that.... What I really wanted was some advice on was , as a possible employer in perth would you want the candidate to have his British gas ticket up to date & transferred into the Australian equivalent ?? Or does this mean nothing to have this ticket? Many thanks for for your help everyone X Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weedolly Posted May 18, 2014 Report Share Posted May 18, 2014 Hi everyone thanks for the replies, I had mentioned before , due to the fact he hasn't been in his trade in the uk for the 4years, (maybe didn't mention this part )but we are unable to get a state sponsorship visa because of that reason and have been advised to come over on working holiday visa. Believe me if we could do the state sponsorship visa this would definitely be the route we would take Because We have already visited & are wanting to look at the possibility of immigration one day but as I do know , it certainly isn't going to be easy and it isn't even easy just to come over & get bar work you need a licence in bar work too now for that.... What I really wanted was some advice on was , as a possible employer in perth would you want the candidate to have his British gas ticket up to date & transferred into the Australian equivalent ?? Or does this mean nothing to have this ticket? Many thanks for for your help everyone X That is what I answered in my previous post. Look at the link, he would still have to gain a licence here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotgirl09 Posted May 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2014 Thanks weedolly your link was very helpful , really appreciated it! Was more of a reply to explain we wernt wanting to just come and waste a year on a holiday (might turn out that way mind u ) lol but we have one chance to give our dream a shot and its going to b hard as we're coming over on a WHV lol but you only live once so might aswell give it a try!!! xx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regan Posted May 18, 2014 Report Share Posted May 18, 2014 Hi scotgirl09 I am a uk trained plumber / gas fitter with corgi- Gas safe. I have heard of people coming over on WHV but it's very time consuming to swap over licences. The system over here is very different. You need to approach the building commission in Perth (formally "plumbing licence board") and ask permission to enrol on a migrants conversion course. You will need to give evidence of your experience. Once you have the go ahead for the course, they run them generally every other month. The other way you could do it is approach Fremantle Tafe and do a Hand skills test which will allow you to take the 2 week course course. This is the expensive way around $7000. Both options will give you a cert III in plumbing and then you can work for a plumbing contractor. Starting wage is around $28 ph up to around $35 employed. You may struggle to get on a gas conversion course due to the time out of the trade but if you can show evidence that you have carried out gas work recently, they will allow you to do the conversion. Failing that, you can do the full course but cost $$$$. All this still won't give you a permanent visa but will allow you to talk directly to the plumbing companies over here. It's a long shot but worth it if your persistent. My advice is Go for it and when your here try to get a sponsorship visa. Regards Regan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotgirl09 Posted May 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2014 Hi scotgirl09I am a uk trained plumber / gas fitter with corgi- Gas safe. I have heard of people coming over on WHV but it's very time consuming to swap over licences. The system over here is very different. You need to approach the building commission in Perth (formally "plumbing licence board") and ask permission to enrol on a migrants conversion course. You will need to give evidence of your experience. Once you have the go ahead for the course, they run them generally every other month. The other way you could do it is approach Fremantle Tafe and do a Hand skills test which will allow you to take the 2 week course course. This is the expensive way around $7000. Both options will give you a cert III in plumbing and then you can work for a plumbing contractor. Starting wage is around $28 ph up to around $35 employed. You may struggle to get on a gas conversion course due to the time out of the trade but if you can show evidence that you have carried out gas work recently, they will allow you to do the conversion. Failing that, you can do the full course but cost $$$$. All this still won't give you a permanent visa but will allow you to talk directly to the plumbing companies over here. It's a long shot but worth it if your persistent. My advice is Go for it and when your here try to get a sponsorship visa. Regards Regan Hi Regan, thank you so much for taking the time to write this reply, it was very helpful & positive Just a wee question , do majority of plumbing companies require you to have the australian gas ticket included before possible sponsership ? Or from what I've been reading , gas plumbing / general plumber are pretty much to different jobs there? It would be the building side of things he would be interested in as he has experience in that! ?? Many thanks again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regan Posted May 18, 2014 Report Share Posted May 18, 2014 A lot of employed plumbers have only there plumbing licence and go onto do there gas later. You may be able to get onto a gas conversion course but you will have to fill out a log book with a qualified fitter. A guy I worked with last year did the same, he has been in perth for 7 years and then he's employer wanted him to get his gas so he did the conversion but because he hadn't done anything for so long , he had to do a workers log book and get it signed by a registered fitter. Regards Regan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotgirl09 Posted May 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2014 A lot of employed plumbers have only there plumbing licence and go onto do there gas later.You may be able to get onto a gas conversion course but you will have to fill out a log book with a qualified fitter. A guy I worked with last year did the same, he has been in perth for 7 years and then he's employer wanted him to get his gas so he did the conversion but because he hadn't done anything for so long , he had to do a workers log book and get it signed by a registered fitter. Regards Regan great help thanks again regan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verystormy Posted May 19, 2014 Report Share Posted May 19, 2014 There is a major issue in your plans. A company is very unlikely to sponsor you before you are qualified to work here. Getting sponsorship is very hard at the best of times. Also, remember, on a WHV you can only work for one employer for 6 months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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steven_gers Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 Of course there not going to sponsor until he is qualified to work there thats why I asked about converting qualifications...... & yes sponsorship is hard near impossible I know!! But like regan has said he knows people who have done it on a WHV and i have friends who are now residents who came over & got lucky enough to get sponsership on a WHV! So like I have said before you only live once, surely its worth a try....... I thought coming on here I might get some support & advice but seems like some people quite like to just criticise & bring down any dreams & plans you dare to try and achieve All ill say to them is KARMA !!! Hey ScotsGirl Well said! Dont let the doom and gloom bring you down, on the WHV he could get TA position for a plumber or do some labouring, or even work on something else, as its a holiday you really only need enough cash to live and enjoy life whilst over there. Also if your partner has his NVQ 2 or NVQ 3 plumbing certificate and can get 2 references from employers or even a white lie from a friend stating works carried out eg replaced a sink or toilet then your partner could sit the migrant plumbing course whilst you guys are over here, it is costly around $3500-$4000 but he would be qualified in OZ standards thus being able to apply for a skilled visa without the need to do all the added assessments needed for that visa as he's already got the qualifications. Alot of money I know, but im sure a skilled visa along with all the assessments plus the migrant course and medicals would nearly be £7000+ Good luck in the venture Think positive Steven Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotgirl09 Posted May 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 (edited) Hey ScotsGirl Well said! Dont let the doom and gloom bring you down, on the WHV he could get TA position for a plumber or do some labouring, or even work on something else, as its a holiday you really only need enough cash to live and enjoy life whilst over there. Also if your partner has his NVQ 2 or NVQ 3 plumbing certificate and can get 2 references from employers or even a white lie from a friend stating works carried out eg replaced a sink or toilet then your partner could sit the migrant plumbing course whilst you guys are over here, it is costly around $3500-$4000 but he would be qualified in OZ standards thus being able to apply for a skilled visa without the need to do all the added assessments needed for that visa as he's already got the qualifications. Alot of money I know, but im sure a skilled visa along with all the assessments plus the migrant course and medicals would nearly be £7000+ Good luck in the venture Think positive Steven Hi Steven, Thanks so much for the reply, your reply has deffo made me feel better :smile2: And the information is perfect , a big help !! Once again Thank you , for taking the time to reply and making us not doubt our idea of coming over as much lol :smile2: Edited May 20, 2014 by Scotgirl09 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ali Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 (edited) Of course there not going to sponsor until he is qualified to work there thats why I asked about converting qualifications...... & yes sponsorship is hard near impossible I know!! But like regan has said he knows people who have done it on a WHV and i have friends who are now residents who came over & got lucky enough to get sponsership on a WHV! So like I have said before you only live once, surely its worth a try....... I thought coming on here I might get some support & advice but seems like some people quite like to just criticise & bring down any dreams & plans you dare to try and achieve All ill say to them is KARMA !!! I haven't read that people have criticised your plans. You asked for advice and have been given sound advice - it's important that you know that there are pit falls as well as the possibilities. It is entirely up to you if you want to give it a try or not, but and if you have friends who are residents who got sponsorship on a WHV then I'm sure they will be a wealth of information to you. As I see it, people have given realistic advice, if you choose to not consider it then that's up to you, but with your last comment about Karma, you may find that should you ask for more assistance in your migration journey then people may be a little reluctant to be quite as forthcoming in the future ... if there's been any criticism, it seems to have been from you towards the replies from others. Good luck with your plans, I hope they're problem free. Edited May 20, 2014 by ali Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cki2011 Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 I have done the migrant gap course and i am now qualified as a WA plumber.... on the course i did there was a guy on a WHV who did the course to get the qualification so as said before he can apply for a PR as he now has a WA qualification.... Just to add to the post by Ali.... i don't see where anyone has given you a bad reply or criticized you.... when we applied for our visa we got loads of very valuable info from here and poms in oz and we are very grateful to all the people who took the time out to help us.... its all about getting help and helping others that makes these sites so valuable and trust me if you are applying for visas and such you will need all the help you can get as it can be a very stressful time.... If you have any questions regarding the course i would be happy to help.... Good luck with your plans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotgirl09 Posted May 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 (edited) I have done the migrant gap course and i am now qualified as a WA plumber.... on the course i did there was a guy on a WHV who did the course to get the qualification so as said before he can apply for a PR as he now has a WA qualification.... Just to add to the post by Ali.... i don't see where anyone has given you a bad reply or criticized you.... when we applied for our visa we got loads of very valuable info from here and poms in oz and we are very grateful to all the people who took the time out to help us.... its all about getting help and helping others that makes these sites so valuable and trust me if you are applying for visas and such you will need all the help you can get as it can be a very stressful time.... If you have any questions regarding the course i would be happy to help.... Good luck with your plans Hi cki2011 & Ali, thank you for your replays , thank you for your advice cki2011 , it's great to hear about your personal experience, advice & kind offer of help it is very much appreciated Ali I appreciate all the advice given and have thanked all who have done this. Edited May 20, 2014 by Scotgirl09 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weedolly Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 (edited) No actually it just sounded childish and you spat the dummy because you didnt like what people told you, and it wasnt exactly what you wanted to hear.I even gave you the link to apply for a licence. no one including myself was trying to be nasty. It is better to find out the negatives as well. Would you rather everyone said, come on over its easy, you can do it no problem? I certainly will think twice before I reply to you again. Edited May 20, 2014 by Weedolly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotgirl09 Posted May 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 Ok so really embarrassed about over reacting to comment made, was wrote just after a 12hour night shift ..... (No excuse) I have tried to delete this thread & disapear which isnt possible , as really dont want to argue with people ! Thanks again everyone for all your advice you have been so much help xx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7cdb Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 Ok so really embarrassed about over reacting to comment made, was wrote just after a 12hour night shift ..... (No excuse) I have tried to delete this thread & disapear which isnt possible , as really dont want to argue with people ! Thanks again everyone for all your advice you have been so much help xx Hey Scotgirl Don't worry about it! There are some very knowledgable people on here and 99% of the time very helpful,but as in life there are some people who get into a little rut themselves and may come accross as patronising when it is not intentional. Everyones different and opinions are like arseholes everyone has one but some stink more than others..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cki2011 Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 Ok so really embarrassed about over reacting to comment made, was wrote just after a 12hour night shift ..... (No excuse) I have tried to delete this thread & disapear which isnt possible , as really dont want to argue with people ! Thanks again everyone for all your advice you have been so much help xx These forums are like sometimes when you send a text message.... comments can be taken the wrong way and not usually intended to harm anyone.... don't worry about your post the genuine people on here will understand as most have been exactly where you are now (even if they forget that sometimes).... ask away any questions or issues you may have as it is better to get it wrong on here than later when it really matters.... it is a very distressing time going through the visa process and then the move but it really is worth it.... if you are unsure about anything and don't want to post on the open forum try sending PM.... You will find that people are generally very helpful and the mods do keep an eye out so just ask away.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verystormy Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 Sorry you have had a bad experience. We do moderate, but even we are human and even we can give a post we would regret - we all have bad days. The forum does reflect life. But, we will not allow bullying or anything like it. We are here to help and if you feel a post is contrary to forum rules then please hit the little triangle symbol to report and one of us will investigate. Just though also remember that what is advised might not be what you hope to hear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotgirl09 Posted May 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 Thanks so much for your support , Felt really bad ,didn't want to cause any trouble , think its deffo like text when you read something and take it the wrong way lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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