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Not sure if this is of interest to anyone but I've finally worked out the total costs of getting our car (VW Passat 2009) and motorbike (Honda Fireblade 2006) from Berkshire to Perth.

 

Was it worth it - the big question! Not sure too be honest. From a sentimental and having vehicles we know the history and reliability of definitely a big YES. r

 

Fom a financial point of view - pretty much 50/50.

 

The second hand car market is huge in WA but finding a good reliable second hand diesel car is a minefield. Our car had just over 53,000kms on the clock and the bike 12,000kms and mileage on similar aged vehicles here are way, way higher. Petrol cars are also much more popular than diesel for some reason.

 

OH has admitted that bringing the Fireblade may have been a mistake (but he bought it from new and is very attached to it!) as the roads are too straight and the police speed traps are everywhere.

 

Please note that some costs below are not 100% accurate as I've pro-rated the shipping costs based on total volume of the 40 foot high container we brought with.

 

Car arrived in excellent condition. Bike had a broken visor on arrival (OH had packed a spare luckily!).

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[TD]Car[/TD]

[TD]Bike[/TD]

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[TD]Importation and shipping costs[/TD]

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[TD][/TD]

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[TD]PSS Shipping fee (40 Foot container) - pro rata[/TD]

[TD=align: right]1391.3[/TD]

[TD=align: right]556.5[/TD]

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[TD]Letton Percival Marine Insurance[/TD]

[TD=align: right]110[/TD]

[TD=align: right]106[/TD]

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[TD]Quarantine fee (Kent)[/TD]

[TD=align: right]200[/TD]

[TD=align: right]185[/TD]

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[TD]GST on importation (Logwin) - 1[/TD]

[TD=align: right]1121.38[/TD]

[TD=align: right]382.7[/TD]

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[TD]Customs entry fee (Logwin) - 2[/TD]

[TD=align: right]508.8[/TD]

[TD=align: right]73[/TD]

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[TD]Other customs entry fees (Logwin) - 3[/TD]

[TD=align: right]175.6[/TD]

[TD][/TD]

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[TD]Logwin fees - 4[/TD]

[TD=align: right]295[/TD]

[TD=align: right]295[/TD]

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[TR]

[TD]Quarantine assessment (Logwin) - 5[/TD]

[TD=align: right]50[/TD]

[TD=align: right]50[/TD]

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[TR]

[TD]10% GST on fees (Logwin) - 6[/TD]

[TD=align: right]34.5[/TD]

[TD=align: right]34.5[/TD]

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[TD]Move permit 1 [/TD]

[TD=align: right]22.8[/TD]

[TD=align: right]22.8[/TD]

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[TD]Move permit 2 [/TD]

[TD=align: right]22.8[/TD]

[TD=align: right]22.8[/TD]

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[TD]Rego Government Tax on Import[/TD]

[TD=align: right]422.05[/TD]

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[TD]First Inspection fee [/TD]

[TD=align: right]88.45[/TD]

[TD=align: right]88.45[/TD]

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[TD]Second Inspection [/TD]

[TD=align: right]60.8[/TD]

[TD=align: right]60.8[/TD]

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[TD]Niddrie (Personal Import Plate)[/TD]

[TD=align: right]94.6[/TD]

[TD=align: right]94.6[/TD]

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[TD][/TD]

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[TD]Total costs[/TD]

[TD=align: right]$3,096.8[/TD]

[TD=align: right]$1,309.7[/TD]

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[TD]GBP equivalent[/TD]

[TD=align: right]£1,673.94[/TD]

[TD=align: right]£707.92[/TD]

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This is helpful, I hadnt even considered some of the costs, thank you for taking the time to add it to this forum, I am sure many others will find this useful information...

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Thanks for adding this, very interesting. Obviously it depends on many factors but I thought I'd look at a quick and dirty analysis of what this reveals against buying here.

Obviously I don't know all details about your car so I've just scanned the lowest and highest values based upon what is currently being advertised across the whole range. I've also converted to $AU using the current exchange rate, not the one you're likely to get from a money transfer co.

 

Looking at Autotrader UK, a 2009 diesel Passat is advertised at between $9500 and $33,000.

 

Diesel Passats are few and far between in WA as you say and the cost of unleaded at the pumps today, local to me was 108.9c (58p) a litre, diesel was 134.9c (72p), so that may give you some indication as to why diesels aren't particularly popular.

 

In Australia a 2009 diesel Passat is being advertised between $12,000 and $29,000.

 

There are all sorts of factors; changes in exchange rates during the time it takes to ship, resale value of a Euro-spec car here, service history and whether this is considered here, desirability, parts and servicing availability and so it goes on.

 

Did you look at or price up RORO shipping or get a quote outside of your shipping company?

 

I guess only time will tell.

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seems a good price , we have been quoted off Iron Lady which was good but RORO and hubby did not like the idea of that, so back to a 40ft container which is an extra £1200 .Still undecided , thanks for the info on diesel prices Porty

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Yeah thanks for the thread, we are still weighing up if it's worth bringing the wife's E250 sport 2011, we have. Been offered 16500 from a we buy your car themed company, on the web they go up to 18000 for a private sale. I am pretty sure it would be worth more in Perth but again it's diesel. I wanted to bring it so it's something that the woke is used to but she quiet likes the Kia sorrento I think the model is anyway. Only downside as with everyone else how much you lose when selling your car. I also have a bike but I built it myself and is a custom 2ltr vtwin based around a Harley davidson but think. It. Would be a nightmare to get sorted and insured so will probably sell that in the UK.

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Thanks for adding this, very interesting. Obviously it depends on many factors but I thought I'd look at a quick and dirty analysis of what this reveals against buying here.

Obviously I don't know all details about your car so I've just scanned the lowest and highest values based upon what is currently being advertised across the whole range. I've also converted to $AU using the current exchange rate, not the one you're likely to get from a money transfer co.

 

Looking at Autotrader UK, a 2009 diesel Passat is advertised at between $9500 and $33,000.

 

Diesel Passats are few and far between in WA as you say and the cost of unleaded at the pumps today, local to me was 108.9c (58p) a litre, diesel was 134.9c (72p), so that may give you some indication as to why diesels aren't particularly popular.

 

In Australia a 2009 diesel Passat is being advertised between $12,000 and $29,000.

 

There are all sorts of factors; changes in exchange rates during the time it takes to ship, resale value of a Euro-spec car here, service history and whether this is considered here, desirability, parts and servicing availability and so it goes on.

 

Did you look at or price up RORO shipping or get a quote outside of your shipping company?

 

I guess only time will tell.

 

Thanks for the response. Yes we did look at RORO but the cost was not much cheaper and OH did not like the possibility of damage en route. We also got a separate quote for shipping of the car only but it worked out about the same as putting it in a 40 foot high container.

 

We are getting 1400kms to a tank with the Passat so very economical and now looking at getting a Toyota Prado as a second vehicle so that we can go off-road, camping etc.

 

As you mentioned at the time we were looking to ship the car the exchange rate was 1GBP/1.4AUD and the rate really changed in the year it took us to get our act together and move over - something we should have been more aware of tbh.

 

We are not looking to sell the car in the foreseeable future (our previous UK car, also a VW Passat had 230,000 miles on the clock and was still going strong!) so for us it was more a case of bringing it with as we knew its history and VW dealerships in Perth stock compatible spares (OH does most of the car maintenance himself).

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I also have a bike but I built it myself and is a custom 2ltr vtwin based around a Harley davidson but think. It. Would be a nightmare to get sorted and insured so will probably sell that in the UK.

 

I think it extremely unlikely that you'd get registration for this so you'd never be able to take it on the road. However, contact one of the custom bike builders here in Perth and pick their brains as they will have a much better idea.

66 build custom cafe racers and scramblers and will probably be able to tell you exactly what you need. http://www.66motorcycles.com

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Cheers Porty, whats your opinion on the Merc prices quoted are in £ forgot to put it on. Thanks for the link will give them a shout.

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Cheers Porty, whats your opinion on the Merc prices quoted are in £ forgot to put it on. Thanks for the link will give them a shout.

 

I'm probably the wrong person to ask, I'd only ever be interested in bringing a classic over and if I were in your shoes my mindset would be, well lets get rid of the old and start afresh, it would be exciting to come over and buy a new car. Having said that, things changed so much for us when we got here that I just wasn't interested in cars. There didn't seem to be the status attached to those things as there was in the UK and I kind of realised that the decisions I'd made in the past weren't about need, they were more about kudos. (I know, pretty shallow)

 

For the first six months here we drove a borrowed, beaten old heap but it was awesome. We then bought our own beaten up old heap that lasted us until around six months ago and now we have a Nissan Cube.

 

After all that, 2011 E250CDI's are advertised at $60-$70k (32-37GBP). Luxury cars always seem to do better so if you were to factor in a harsh 10% resale devaluation because it's an import and pay the shipping costs as quoted above , it looks like a no brainer. Do be aware though that you'll pay duty on the local valuation, not the UK and also bear in mind that currently, on Australia's largest used car web advertising site, there are just 11 E250CDI's for sale, that's in the whole of Australia. I'll let you draw your own conclusions.

 

Talk to IronChef, they'll be in a much better position to advise.

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Out of interest, if you put your car in a container are you allowed to fill it with your property you are bringing?

I've also heard that you have to have the A/C gas removed only for them to charge you to replace it when it arrives the other end?

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Out of interest, if you put your car in a container are you allowed to fill it with your property you are bringing?

I've also heard that you have to have the A/C gas removed only for them to charge you to replace it when it arrives the other end?

VERY good question, look forward to the replies!

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recently had quotes and if the car is in the container you can not put anything in it. If you have had the car for 12months you do not have to have it degassed., however if it is a classic that is different. Go on to Iron Lady car imports explains more.

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recently had quotes and if the car is in the container you can not put anything in it. If you have had the car for 12months you do not have to have it degassed., however if it is a classic that is different. Go on to Iron Lady car imports explains more.

 

That really doesn't make sense!! All that wasted space!! I mean you could fill it with belongings then when it arrives at other end you could empty it and leave car for all the ridiculously expensive checks they want to do!! Sounds like its designed to make money as you would then need more space for your stuff you could of put in the car!

 

 

As for the Gas I can understand that old R12 gas in the classics, apparently punched holes in the Ozone layer, although one might say that if its not leaking and working correctly why empty it as expensive mods required for the later gas and it never works as well!!

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Hi @JaseandAnne our car is about to go with all our stuff in a container tomorrow.

 

You don't need to have your air con de-gassed (I checked with the dept of environment in Oz)

 

You should get it THOROUGHLY cleaned as Australian bio security will charge about $600 for this

 

You need to apply for import approval online. It's pretty painless (there is a charge - like with everything) but it only takes about 20 days to get your pink import approval slip

 

Send off the export bit of your V5 to the DVLA

 

Disconnect your battery once it's in the container

 

Bob's yer dad's brother!

 

Having said all that, unless your car is worth a lot in Australia (check it on Redbook.com.au) it's probably not worth it. Mine's a Porsche so definitely worth taking

Edited by marcozambini

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Hi @JaseandAnne our car is about to go with all our stuff in a container tomorrow.

 

You don't need to have your air con de-gassed (I checked with the dept of environment in Oz)

 

You should get it THOROUGHLY cleaned as Australian bio security will charge about $600 for this

 

You need to apply for import approval online. It's pretty painless (there is a charge - like with everything) but it only takes about 20 days to get your pink import approval slip

 

Send off the export bit of your V5 to the DVLA

 

Disconnect your battery once it's in the container

 

Bob's yer dad's brother!

 

Having said all that, unless your car is worth a lot in Australia (check it on Redbook.com.au) it's probably not worth it. Mine's a Porsche so definitely worth taking

 

So are you putting stuff in your car? Or have you been told to leave it empty? Porsche, nice!:cool: That's gonna be lovely in that good weather, what model is it? Ive got an old 1980 924, not bringing it because its not worth a lot, its a 2 litre not the more desirable 2.5 "S" model.

I'd be interested to know what sort of tax you have to pay the other end? Keep us updated.

 

Jase

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It's a Boxster S 987 only 4 years old and I love it too much to sell!

 

It's going in the container tomorrow so I'll let you know about whether the PSS guys let me put stuff in it.

 

My main worry is mildew on the canvas roof after months in a container but we'll see what happens. The funniest thing was I cracked the windscreen at the weekend having one last drive down a country lane and had to race to get a replacement today!!! Nightmare

 

I'll keep you posted on the tax. It's really complicated and I've tried to work it out so many times I've now given up and am resorting to crossing my fingers!!!

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gosh what a nightmare Marcozambini, hope all goes well today for you, we too are having PSS, we are stuck whether to take a 40ft with them for the car or the A package with Iron Lady who do the car separately , we are falling at the first hurdle trying to find all the paperwork rqd. for the VIA. We have had quotes from Iron Lady on the costs when in Oz. what they recon is if the car is worth at least 5k more in Oz as it costs that much to ship, then bring it.PSS did tell me nothing could be inside the car,lets see how you do, good luck.

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Our car is on its way (inside a 40 ft high container with all our belongings)so I don't know about costs once it gets here. However, the whole process was easy to do from the UK end. I'm glad I didn't pay an agent like Iron Lady to do it (touch wood) because I think it will be much cheaper doing it ourselves, plus we made the most of container space. I was told nothing inside the car except things related to the car, so I left new car mats, kids seats etc in the car and boot. I could have left the roof box on top (filled with stuff) but in the end I just stuck it with the other goods as it was easier for when it arrives in Perth as my husband won't be here to help get it off the car. We had it cleaned before we left but it was raining when I dropped it off and as I'd driven 10km there was dirt everywhere. The guy at Clark & Rose told me they're just concerned with clumps of dirt, not a bit of sand. So, I'll update you in a few weeks as to whether we get stuck with a cleaning bill. Incidentally, I had the speedo changed to kph in the UK as I figured it would be easier and cheaper to have it done there (whilst the car was having a service).

ETA - we never had to disconnect the battery or anything. I just had to run the fuel tank to near empty...left about 10km or less in the tank.

Edited by Laz

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going to give it a go myself , as just heard from Iron Lady and they want docs. I will never have ie rental agreements, childrens scools.

so thanks Laz for you post.

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going to give it a go myself , as just heard from Iron Lady and they want docs. I will never have ie rental agreements, childrens scools.

so thanks Laz for you post.

I was able to get quite a few docs as we had enrolled kids in a school already. I included docs like our house sale in the UK, my one way airline tickets, letter from kids' school in Perth. Anyway, if you give the online application a go it doesn't take long to get the approval, so I guess if you don't have enough documentation you will know soon enough. I personally hate paying for something when I can do it myself.

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I agree @Laz the online application was pretty straightforward and the approval came after about 15 days without me having to chase it up at all. Aaaaah the joy of seeing that pink export form in my inbox!!!

 

Here's a pic for you all!

 

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ok , you two how did you know all the questions ie rental, school to get your points ? I want to do it myself but struggling to find anything that it is asking for. Did you do it online ?

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