rachelk Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 Where do I start, we currently haver PR and this runs out in June 2017. We have lived on the Gold Cost but unfortunately this did not work out for us so we had to move back to the UK. When we moved in 2013 it was horrendous, we felt like a lot of obstacles were in our way. Four members of the family moved with PR and my eldest daughter who was 20 at the time came on a working holiday visa with her partner to see if they liked the Australian lifestyle. Anyway to cut a long story short my husband, son and I are wanting to move back next year but my daughter who is nearly 20 wants to go to university here. I will also be leaving my eldest daughter (22) and my grandson if I go back to Australia. I am trying to persuade my daughter that she can take a year or so out of studying to get her citizenship in Australia, even maybe going to uni in Perth but she is so unsure and is so frightened of taking a chance on coming back to Australia having already secured a place in uni in the UK. I really don't know how to persuade her to gain her citizenship. I feel like the past 3 years of my life have been like a roller coaster. Packing up our life in the UK moving to the Gold Coast, coming back to the UK and now wanting to return to Perth( we had a holiday in Perth April this year and fell in love with the place). I also live in hope my eldest daughter would move to Australia once she sees how beautiful Perth is. What would you do if you were me? Stay in the UK because my two eldest daughters are happy here or take a chance and hope they follow me on. It would be nice to get other peoples views. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weedolly Posted July 15, 2015 Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 Thing is they are big girls and you have to let them make their choice and you do whats best for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newjez Posted July 15, 2015 Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 Where do I start, we currently haver PR and this runs out in June 2017. We have lived on the Gold Cost but unfortunately this did not work out for us so we had to move back to the UK.When we moved in 2013 it was horrendous, we felt like a lot of obstacles were in our way. Four members of the family moved with PR and my eldest daughter who was 20 at the time came on a working holiday visa with her partner to see if they liked the Australian lifestyle. Anyway to cut a long story short my husband, son and I are wanting to move back next year but my daughter who is nearly 20 wants to go to university here. I will also be leaving my eldest daughter (22) and my grandson if I go back to Australia. I am trying to persuade my daughter that she can take a year or so out of studying to get her citizenship in Australia, even maybe going to uni in Perth but she is so unsure and is so frightened of taking a chance on coming back to Australia having already secured a place in uni in the UK. I really don't know how to persuade her to gain her citizenship. I feel like the past 3 years of my life have been like a roller coaster. Packing up our life in the UK moving to the Gold Coast, coming back to the UK and now wanting to return to Perth( we had a holiday in Perth April this year and fell in love with the place). I also live in hope my eldest daughter would move to Australia once she sees how beautiful Perth is. What would you do if you were me? Stay in the UK because my two eldest daughters are happy here or take a chance and hope they follow me on. It would be nice to get other peoples views. When we said if we win the lottery we'll move back to Perth, my youngest cried and said he hopes we'll never win the lottery. I have a plan to extract us from the UK, but it won't be easy to initiate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verystormy Posted July 15, 2015 Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 A lot of issues to think about. First, citizenship will not be possible in a year as one of the rules is you must not have been out of oz for more than 12 months in the last 4 and no more than 90 days in the last 12 months. Second, if the younger daughter comes to do her degree here, she will not be entitled to much help as only citizens can access it. Third, if she does come, but then decides to return to the UK she would not be classed as resident in the UK for university funding for 2 years. Fourth, can your oldest daughter even qualify for a visa? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ali Posted July 15, 2015 Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 If you moved and your daughter stayed to study she could very well get a resident return visa anyway as she would have ties to Aus (ie. you living there and showing that she remained in the UK to study). It may be worth looking into which would allow her to come to Aus if she wanted to do so after her studies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homebythesea Posted July 17, 2015 Report Share Posted July 17, 2015 Hi Rachel, Not an easy decision to make... We also left oz first time but returned back just 9 months later ! Been back over 4 years now and for us it was the right thing to do. We also left an adult daughter behind both times ( being an Independant adult she was unable to be included in our original visa and she wanted to live her own live not ours). Over the years it has been sad to miss out on her celebrations and successes, and equally difficult when her relationships have ended - seeing her upset over Skype etc was heart wrenching. Your childs happiness wherever they chose to live in the world is what's important. Our daughter now currently looking at coming over here to live now, hence for me rejoining in forums such as this ! By reading your post it seems your nearly 20 year old has a visa already, if so then like Ali suggested it would be best looking into a RRV. For yourselves, I was surprised when friends recently gained their citizenships even though they had been out of Oz for over 12 months - they holidayed & validated, went back to uk for 16mths, came to live in Oz then applied for citizenship four years after validation... they needed provide an uk police check for the time back they were back in uk. I always though it was four years on Australian soil but seems I was wrong... You would however need to be in Oz for a year before applying for citizenship. Best of luck in your decision x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lou8670 Posted July 17, 2015 Report Share Posted July 17, 2015 (edited) I'd suggest doing some more research into whether there are other options you might not have considered or be aware of. A friend of mine who moved to Australia last year, and who's daughter has just finished her A levels in the UK but also has her resident visa, found out that if her daughter applies for Uni in the UK she will have to pay £9k pa (apparently based on household income and as the family she has been staying with whilst completing her A Levels were 40% tax payers during the last 3 years she won't get a lot of help...) Whereas if she enrols in a Australian Uni and pays domestic fees as a permanent resident it's only $6k pa and she can still study at the UK Uni she wanted to go to because they have a reciprocal agreement with the Aussie Uni. Plus, if she enrols at the Australian Uni but completes her degree at a reciprocal Uni in the UK she's classed as still resident in Australia. Mad I know but it's definitely worth doing a lot more homework to see if the course she wants to do is also offered on this basis. Apparently there's information online but my friend ended up talking to the admissions team at the Aussie Uni who provided her with all the information she needed. Edited July 18, 2015 by Lou8670 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ali Posted July 18, 2015 Report Share Posted July 18, 2015 Are you sure she can complete her whole degree at a UK uni - I thought it was just one or two semesters? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lou8670 Posted July 19, 2015 Report Share Posted July 19, 2015 Are you sure she can complete her whole degree at a UK uni - I thought it was just one or two semesters? My friend said the whole degree but it could be different for different degrees? I haven't looked into it myself but it's definitely an option worth exploring... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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