JobyJo Posted September 7, 2015 Report Share Posted September 7, 2015 Hi I'm new to this site but have been reliably informed it's so helpful. We are in the very early stages and have only just contacted an agent to get the ball rolling. The dream is Perth, the reality I have just been told is unlikely. So, looking at visa 189 with my nursing background. Qualified under project 2000 and have a BSc (hons) in health and social welfare that I did after my diploma in nursing. I have been told by agent that my degree might not be the correct degree and I also need evidence of medicines management linked to degree..... I'm confused. I don't know why my degree might not be good enough and surely i covered medicines management in the project 2000 syllabus but I don't have any stand alone documentation of it..... Any help gratefully received.... thanks Jo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
louloubelle Posted September 7, 2015 Report Share Posted September 7, 2015 I'm in a similar situation in that I did my diploma in mental health nursing in 2002, never did my top up degree but have just completed my MSc in health professional education. I am just waiting for my certificate and transcript to come through then I can send off for my skills assessment. My agent seems to think I should be ok but can't be certain. I'm just sending lots of updates I ha e done and other evidence regarding meds management. I will let you know if I hear anything. Have you looked at the criteria on the AHPRA website that might help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoopyLauren Posted September 8, 2015 Report Share Posted September 8, 2015 Hi Jo, I was under the impression that any degree would be ok? But I a, not informed on that am afraid. re medicines management, I was really worried about that. I rang my UNI, (Sheffield uni) and spoke to someone and explained the situation. She seemed very aware of it and had obviously been asked before re this issue. I emailed exactly what was required off the AHPRA website ( section on it specifically) and then they gave me statement stating what i covered. It was simple in the end. I did P2000 too. I hope that helps. I guess you will have to be very clear to the uni what they need to state. Sorry I can't help with the degree bit. Do some digging. xx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JobyJo Posted September 8, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2015 Thanks Lauren. I spoke with the Uni today and they are able to give me a transcript of my study. Thanks for adivice re emailing the criteria from the AHPRA website - I'll do it tomorrow. The agent is looking into my degree. Can't see why it won't count - it's in health after all. We shall see. Hope you are settling in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoopyLauren Posted September 9, 2015 Report Share Posted September 9, 2015 Jo, You will need your full uni transcript anyhow. x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaunfreo Posted September 10, 2015 Report Share Posted September 10, 2015 Hi There This whole issue has certainly stopped many nurses and midwives from migrating and meeting the AHPRA registration standards, the bottom line is that the qualification that in effect gave you the title of registered nurse/midwife has to be equivalent to an Australian Bachelor degree (RN RM) they will not consider a diploma under any circumstances many have tried and failed. So although you have an degree in health and social welfare that qualification did not lead to you obtaining your RN so would not be valid. Also a point of warning the organisation that assesses overseas trained nurses for migration ANMAC , can and has given a positive skills assessment for migration purposes but that does not mean you will neccessarily be able to register with AHPRA. hope that helps shaun http://www.nursingmidwiferyboard.gov.au/Registration-and-Endorsement/International/Meeting-the-registration-requirements.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoopyLauren Posted September 10, 2015 Report Share Posted September 10, 2015 Yes very true @shawnfreo- AMNAC are not inline with APHRA at all. I am guessing they will align in time, as it makes no sense at all! I got my skills assessed and passed and then the degree thing came in. I have however worked previously in OZ, so they have looked at my case individually thank god! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
louloubelle Posted September 10, 2015 Report Share Posted September 10, 2015 I have been informed by my agent that AMNAC have just very recently got in line with APHRA so you should be ok if you get a positive skills assessment. Its crazy as the modules I covered in my MSc are the equivalent to what I would have done to get a top up degree!!!! fingers crossed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JobyJo Posted September 10, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2015 After lots of emails and questions I have had information from the agent that says 'It isn’t necessary that you has a degree when you qualified and registered as a nurse (i.e. the point at which you obtained a ‘statement of entry’ onto the register). AHPRA just care that you have a relevant degree now'. Also stated that in order for skills assessment to be valid I have to be eligible for APHRA and the two go hand in hand. So given this info Fingers crossed I should be ok and have started the process....... hopefully that will be the same for you louloubelle.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
louloubelle Posted September 10, 2015 Report Share Posted September 10, 2015 That is good to hear more positive for us I think. I just need my certificate and then I can send everything off. Let me know how you get on jobyjo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaunfreo Posted September 12, 2015 Report Share Posted September 12, 2015 Hi again yes its true that it isn't a requirement to have the degree at initial registration, just that you have a Batchelor degree in nursing studies when you apply to AHPRA for registration the rules changed last year it initially caused a real problem as some nurses had their visas, sold houses in UK then couldn't get registered, so couldn't get work, they compromised in the end and allowed applications submitted before the change to be processed under the pre change criteria but all those who submitted after were assessed under the new. In the end all you can do is submit an application and hope for the best btw AHPRA are just about as unpopular here as the NMC , good luck to you all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
louloubelle Posted September 12, 2015 Report Share Posted September 12, 2015 What is classed as nursing studies though as my masters in health professional education?? Which to be fair covered mostly the same modules as I'd I had done my top up degree. I am a teacher of higher education on the nmc register so not sure if that will still be the case for AHPRA. They do not give you a clear answer when you get in touch either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FurryBear Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 I was granted registration as an RMN with just a diploma with the condition of a year of supervised practice. Once my masters was awarded I appealed and had the condition of a years supervised practice lifted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FurryBear Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 Have heard of other mental health and children's nurses being given registration with just a diploma (and the condition of a years supervised practice) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JobyJo Posted September 30, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 How are you getting on @louloubelle. I have booked my IELTS now and have started getting everything together to send of for skills assessment. My agent said that it was a bit complicated because my degree is not a 'nursing' degree and they won't accept my diploma alone but the with the two combined and my experience they are confident I should be ok. Fingers crossed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
louloubelle Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 Well I got my MSc certificate on Saturday so I can get the ball rolling now. I have all my documents for ANMAC and AHPRA so I am going to get them all certified this Friday and send everything off them I suppose it's just a waiting game!!! I will keep you updated. When are you doing the IELTs @JobyJo?? It's not so bad if you are well prepared, fingers crossed. Which agent are you using?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
louloubelle Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 @FurryBear did you get registered after the changes were made and also what was your Masters in?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FurryBear Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 Hi @louloubelle I submitted my application after the changes in June 2014 and my MSc is in mental health Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
louloubelle Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 That's quite reassuring,it's hard to know what they want so I suppose I just have to wait and see and pray they feel my qualifications are sufficient!!! I'm a mental health nurse too, where you looking at working?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FurryBear Posted October 1, 2015 Report Share Posted October 1, 2015 We are looking at Western Australia south of Perth in the country. I think Albany is most likely but possibly bunbury Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JobyJo Posted October 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2015 Hi @louloubelle. I'm doing the IELTS on 10th Oct. I think I'm quite well prepared but looking at past comments on here it's a nightmare and seems to take people a few try's at it. So fingers crossed I will be ok. Currently gathering all the information to send off for skills assessment. How long does it normally take to hear back if you are successful - any ideas?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JobyJo Posted October 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2015 Love Bunbury. Swam with the Dolphins there. Amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
louloubelle Posted October 2, 2015 Report Share Posted October 2, 2015 Good luck for the 10th, for me it was more the really strict and mean examiners more than the test itself, I felt like a child again!!!!! Well I got all my documents for ANMAC and AHPRA certified today, all forms completed and in an envelope ready to post off tomorrow. My agent told my between 8-12 weeks for ANMAC so I am going to try and forget about it for a while. I will let you know when I hear and if it's good news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JobyJo Posted October 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2015 Fingers crossed it will be good news. You might be celebrating at Xmas then if you hear within the next 8-10 weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
louloubelle Posted October 2, 2015 Report Share Posted October 2, 2015 It would be nice to hear before Xmas. I get really impatient though I hate waiting lol. Let us know how you get on with your ielts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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