Guest Pebbles Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 Hi, I'm looking for a bit of advice please. Later this week I have an interview in the UK to work in Perth. The company intention is, if successful, I would come on a sponsored 457 visa. My question; Is the stipulation that dependants are 18 years old and under written in stone? I have 2 children and fully intend to bring them both, oh and the mrs also obviously. My daughter just turned 19, she lives at home with us and still depends heavily on her parents. She is currently nearing the end of a 2 year HND course. So I just wondered how rigid the immigration people were with this 18 year old rule? It seems very young as nowadays most kids won't have left home and be independant at that age. Any info greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pebbles Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 Anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ali Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 If she's still in higher education I think she'll be ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pebbles Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 Thank you Ali. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerthPomToBe Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 I am not 100% positive but think you will just have to prove her dependence on you guys. Does it not say anything about it on the DIAC website? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Philnjools Posted March 14, 2012 Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 Have looked in to this and it is very hard to say. If you can prove they are financially dependant on you i.e. in education then you can take them. But that ends if they come out of education and as i read it they have to apply for there own visa or leave. The easiest way may be to get then 1 year working holiday visa's then get a job and get sponsored to stay. You should really consult a migration agent. Your Aussie firm will probably apoint one to deal with your 457 then you can ask them. Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pebbles Posted March 15, 2012 Report Share Posted March 15, 2012 Cheers Phil, if need be we will work round any issues. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollywobbler Posted March 17, 2012 Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 Hi, I'm looking for a bit of advice please. Later this week I have an interview in the UK to work in Perth. The company intention is, if successful, I would come on a sponsored 457 visa. My question; Is the stipulation that dependants are 18 years old and under written in stone? I have 2 children and fully intend to bring them both, oh and the mrs also obviously. My daughter just turned 19, she lives at home with us and still depends heavily on her parents. She is currently nearing the end of a 2 year HND course. So I just wondered how rigid the immigration people were with this 18 year old rule? It seems very young as nowadays most kids won't have left home and be independant at that age. Any info greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. Hi there I said exactly the same as you to a couple of very senior DIAC Officials at a meeting at Australia House in London in 2009. I was told that someone becomes an adult on his/her 18th birthday. End of. If the young adult chooses not behave in a way that would be consistent with him/her remaining dependent on his/her parents, that is up to the young adult and nothing to do with DIAC. Again, end of. The DIAC Officials were not being unpleasant or unsympathetic but I do wonder whether the MPs in both countries really considered the implications fully when they lowered the age of Majority to 18. At the moment, your 19 year old daughter remains dependent on you financially if she is still in full-time education. However, if you take her out to Australia as your dependent, what would she do out there? Sure, you could send her to college or Uni in Oz but you would be charged International Student rates, I suspect, so the tuition would be about 3 times dearer than for an Aussie student of the same age. Have you considered all of the possible "wrinkles" fully? The thing is, you are only planning on a sc 457 visa at this stage. That might well enable your daughter to travel to Oz as your Dependant. However if she then gets a full time job, so that she is no longer financially dependent on you, it will NOT be possible to include her in your subsequent application for PR in Oz. So what would happen about your daughter in that scenario? DIAC have no power to prevent her from getting a job whilst she is the secondary holder of a 457 visa if she decides that that is what she wants to do. I know a couple whose son turned 18 whilst they were in Perth on a sc 457. His parents decided that it would be too expensive to send him to college before he became a Permanent Resident. Nonetheless, he was not going to be able to get PR unless he remained Dependent on Dad. So a miserable compromise was worked out. Dad "allowed" his son to work very part-time hours in the local McJunk outlet. Just enough to give the lad some pocket money but not enough to allow him to become financially independent of Dad in DIAC's eyes. The boy made friends of his own age in the McJunk outlet. His parents disapproved of his new friends, particularly when the boy was involved in a fairly serious crash in a car being driven by one of his friends. (Although the boy was not injured, I vaguely remember that one of the girls in the car was either killed or seriously injured. The car hit a lamp post or something.) Eventually the family did obtain PR before the boy turned 19 but between the ages of 17 and 19, he certainly didn't have the best possible introduction to life in Australia, I felt. So please do make sure that you consider everything very carefully. How long do you propose that you and your daughter should spend on a sc 457 visa, please? Cheers Gill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pebbles Posted March 17, 2012 Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 Won't matter now, plans have changed. Thanks for the reply Gobbler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Julesmt Posted March 26, 2012 Report Share Posted March 26, 2012 Sorry to contradict you but you don't have to pay International student fees on a 457 Visa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest annie Posted March 28, 2012 Report Share Posted March 28, 2012 RE. 457 having/not having to pay international student fees> I'm hearing different views, i've been told by people on another thread that we would have to pay international student fees when my kids start uni. There is nothing on diac or official website to infrom me. so im confused as this could be a very real issue as we are going on a 457 and may not be able to get a pr due to qualification issues. The company are happy to reissue a 457 when the 4 years is up. But we can't afford the fees if they are 30,000 a year or as someone else suggested 45,000. So will we be exempt from int. fees on the 457??????? Anyone know for certain??????thanks, annie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Julesmt Posted March 28, 2012 Report Share Posted March 28, 2012 I have an 18 year old daughter that has gone to College and they said because she is on your 457 visa and is a dependant she wont have to pay International fees. I also have a friend here in Perth who is on a 457 that booked her son into Tafe. She was also who told on here that she had to pay International fees, she was confused but was still going to pay $20,000, but when she phoned them up and asked they said no you will pay the same as a resident. Maybe you should email the Uni to make sure for certain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest annie Posted March 29, 2012 Report Share Posted March 29, 2012 Sorry i don't mean to take over the thread, just re. the fees for third level. could it be that theres a difference between uni and tafe for charging fees for 457. or might it be that some areas in oz the 457 visa holders have to pay fees while others are treated the same as australian residents. was on an official website for australian government ...study assist just now and it says that all 457 holders (temporary visa) are treated as international students with fees up to 36,000 a year. I have also seen on other threads where some people are definetly paying international fees on a 457 but not sure what location they are in. Maybe NSW and ACT charge as i know they charge for government schools. And then Julesmt ,you say you are definetely not being charged. Im afraid of going and ending up in debt and then maybe having to return home where the kids are once again treated as international students.AHHHH!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Julesmt Posted March 29, 2012 Report Share Posted March 29, 2012 I think you're best to find what Uni you are wanting your son/ daughter to go to and ask them directly. I know for sure College and TAFE do not charge International fees as myself and 2 others that I have spoken to with 18 year olds pay the same as everyone else. It might be that Uni is different, but like I say email them to find out. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest annie Posted March 29, 2012 Report Share Posted March 29, 2012 Thanks Julesmt. will contact the university. good advise!!! thanks again, annie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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