Dave1411 Posted January 16, 2017 Report Share Posted January 16, 2017 (edited) Hi ,my post has vanished!! New here and going through the visa app now as my gf of 20 years is a insurance broker and on the skills list . Who else has made the big jump? Selling the house etc I also want to bring my Audi RS4 ,sentimental reasons so advice here would be great Dave Edited January 16, 2017 by Dave1411 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jen78 Posted January 17, 2017 Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 Hi Dave, Congratulations on making the decision to move and welcome to the biggest adventure of your life! We have just moved and it is a week today since our plane left, no looking back yet! For peace of mind we used an agent, it costs more but with us both working full time and 2 girls in tow we didnt want the hassle of doing it all ourselves. We used The Emmigraton Group and were really pleased with them. It took about 10 months to get the visas. We sold our house, we listed it about a month after the visa application went in and we had an offer about 6 weeks after the visas were granted and this was by far the most stressful bit. We booked the flight and holiday accommodation the day the house exchanged contracts. The house completed the day before we flew and we are using moneycorp to transfer all our money to our Aussie bank account. We didn't ship a car, so no advice there, but if you have any more questions, please don't hesitate to ask, this forum really helped me along the journey so far. Best of luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossmoyne Posted January 17, 2017 Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 Hi Dave and welcome to the forum. Ask away with any queries you have and hopefully someone can help you. As far as importing a car in Australia goes, there are some threads on this in the Transport section of this forum. In the search window just type "Importing a car into Australia" and all the threads will pop up. Hopefully the information you require will be there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave1411 Posted January 17, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 (edited) Hi everyone Massive decision that's scary but I know a little way down the line life will be better. I have a 5 year old son and another little boy due anytime now which has pushed me to make this choice, a better life I'm using a company in London called Global migration who took the deposit yesterday and will arrange visa's and Job interviews. So I guess now it's just time and putting everything into place ,I was advised to keep my house in the UK but unfortunately the money from the sale will set us up rent free for 2 years and leave a nice lump in the bank behind us so we can settle down. How do you all find you fit In ? I guess that's a lot of people fears , I know my boys will be fine as kids meet new friends at school etc This is also another question, is there school fees ? So all in all exciting and scary at the same time but as a family we need change. Both working 50 plus hours a week to pay bills is no fun and I've had a mortgage since 21 and now I'm 38 with a fair way to go You only live once Edited January 17, 2017 by Dave1411 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verystormy Posted January 17, 2017 Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 Hi and welcome Have you obtained a visa? At the moment, your occupation is only on the CSOL, which means you need a sponsor, the only state sponsoring is Northern Territory. This would almost certain to be a 489. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave1411 Posted January 17, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 (edited) Hi not as yet ,the company are arranging it for us .my partners company also has a office in Perth so I'll see how we go .she is on the skills list and there is a franchise just south of Perth for sale in transport, exactly the same as what I do in the UK Edited January 17, 2017 by Dave1411 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verystormy Posted January 17, 2017 Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 Ah, so a company sponsored 457 visa? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave1411 Posted January 17, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 Hi yes ,but we also have a migration agency getting nicola interviews etc . I'm trying to cover all bases first Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ali Posted January 17, 2017 Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 If you are on 457 then this is only a temporary visa and there will be school fees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benj1980 Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 https://www.tafeinternational.wa.edu.au/your-study-options/study-at-school/dependants-of-457-visa-holders The fees are $4k per year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave1411 Posted January 18, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 Sorry little confused! So much going on .it will be for permanent residency . I don't plan on coming back to the UK my time here is done lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dxboz Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 Hi Dave a 457 is a temporary visa - no guarantee of staying if you lose your job - think you have 90 days to leave the country if you cannot find another sponsor. Great visa if you want an adventure and nothing else. Having said that I know lots of people who came on a 457 and managed to get PR but it is definitely not guaranteed - it is what it is - a temporary visa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave1411 Posted January 18, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 Hi that's OK with me . I just want to see if we as a family can settle ,work hard and enjoy life a little more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ali Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 Has your girlfriend done her skills assessment? I'm a littke confused are you coming out on a PR or temporary visa? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave1411 Posted January 19, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 Hi sorry , she has done her skills assessment and it's fine .sure it's a 457 4 year visa and being able to apply for PR after 2 years . The paper work is going through now , then the job interviews start . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dxboz Posted January 19, 2017 Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 Hi Dave this is a little confusing - do you have a job to come to and the interviews are for your partner? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave1411 Posted January 19, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 Hi my partner is having interviews as she is on the skills list . I'm in talks with a courier company regarding a job for when and if we get there. It's the same work as I do in the UK so I'm not so worried Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ali Posted January 19, 2017 Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 Hi sorry , she has done her skills assessment and it's fine .sure it's a 457 4 year visa and being able to apply for PR after 2 years . The paper work is going through now , then the job interviews start . You can apply for a PR any time particularly if she already has the skills assessment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elfie Posted January 19, 2017 Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 Never say never on returning home. Circumstances change verystormy can verify this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave1411 Posted January 19, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 (edited) Oh dear, what happened ?? From reading A LOT from what I can make out is Houses are cheaper in the mandurah area ? House are cheaper in general than the UK? If you go out drinking a few nights a week, smoke or want to dine a lot its dearer ? Cars are very expensive to buy.? But cheaper to run ? Where as in the UK your house is a weight around your ankle with the average house down south (Essex) being over £300,000 with shocking 35 year deals . Mines £892 per month and when my little boy is born any day now in 6 months my childcare will be £800 . This to me is crazy and leads to a hard relationship, to much pressure and no life. If I'm wrong on any off the above please feel free to put me right ? I'm trying to also budget what gas /electric /water bills are in Australia, silly I know but better to add to the budget insted of ignoring it . In the UK I pay £124 per month gas/elec and £700 a year water 3 bedroom bungalow Edited January 19, 2017 by Dave1411 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ali Posted January 20, 2017 Report Share Posted January 20, 2017 There are areas of Mandurah were you will find million $ properties. Mortgages here can be 30 years. I'm not sure how expensive childcare is here or if you get any assistance on a temporary visa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verystormy Posted January 20, 2017 Report Share Posted January 20, 2017 First visas. There is no guarantee of gaining PR from a 457. Some gain, some don't. As the occupation is only on the CSOL and only available for sponsorship by NT, you would require business sponsorship. Even if you later applied to NT, if living in Perth it would likely be refused. The problem with relying on PR by business sponsorship is many businesses refuse. Even when it is part of th contract, we regularly see it refused by companies and their is no way of forcing them. You need to assume you will be returning at the end of the 457. It is what it says on the tin. A temporary visa with no automatic transition to PR. A 457 also comes with a number of issues. You will not be entitled to any help with childcare or any other government benefits and technically, medical care is via international agreement. One of the conditions is that if the main applicant were to lose their job for any reason, she would have 60 days to find another or you all have to leave the country. Also, is she happy to be working full time after having a baby? It is a condition of a 457 that she does. Be aware, you mention buying a franchise. This also has more hoops as first, it would require FIRB approval for none residents. Then there are issues with credit as you only have permission to be in the country for the duration of the 457. So, credit is often harder, on shorter terms and more expensive. As for housing, average rental costs are $1800 a month. Mandurah is often a bit cheaper, but if working in Perth, this would mean a commute of 1 - 1.5 hours each way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benj1980 Posted January 20, 2017 Report Share Posted January 20, 2017 First visas. There is no guarantee of gaining PR from a 457. Some gain, some don't. As the occupation is only on the CSOL and only available for sponsorship by NT, you would require business sponsorship. Even if you later applied to NT, if living in Perth it would likely be refused. The problem with relying on PR by business sponsorship is many businesses refuse. Even when it is part of th contract, we regularly see it refused by companies and their is no way of forcing them. You need to assume you will be returning at the end of the 457. It is what it says on the tin. A temporary visa with no automatic transition to PR. A 457 also comes with a number of issues. You will not be entitled to any help with childcare or any other government benefits and technically, medical care is via international agreement. One of the conditions is that if the main applicant were to lose their job for any reason, she would have 60 days to find another or you all have to leave the country. Also, is she happy to be working full time after having a baby? It is a condition of a 457 that she does. Be aware, you mention buying a franchise. This also has more hoops as first, it would require FIRB approval for none residents. Then there are issues with credit as you only have permission to be in the country for the duration of the 457. So, credit is often harder, on shorter terms and more expensive. As for housing, average rental costs are $1800 a month. Mandurah is often a bit cheaper, but if working in Perth, this would mean a commute of 1 - 1.5 hours each way. You can get a rental in Mandurah a lot less than $1800 now. Just a quick glance from $300 pw upwards in my area for a 4x2. Although the train is 50 odd minutes you would have to factor driving to the station unless you lived close. Personally I wouldn't like the commute! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elfie Posted January 20, 2017 Report Share Posted January 20, 2017 You can get a rental in Mandurah a lot less than $1800 now. Just a quick glance from $300 pw upwards in my area for a 4x2. Although the train is 50 odd minutes you would have to factor driving to the station unless you lived close. Personally I wouldn't like the commute! Yes but in what area?? Mandurah is no 9 on the latest crime report wellard being 10 in the local paper this week. Something to bear in mind. No disrespect but original poster seems to have rose tinted glasses on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verystormy Posted January 20, 2017 Report Share Posted January 20, 2017 Yes, some areas can be cheaper, hence why I said Mandurah can be cheaper. But, that means a long commute. I used to commute Dawesville to Perth and it was just over 2 hours each way - didn't have a car then. With a car, it would still be about 1 hour 40. The price I have given is for Perth average. But the most important point of the post if the OP must understand this is not a permanent move and should not be classed as such. If I had a penny for every 457 holder I have come across over the years who thought it would be only to find it wasn't, I would be a wealthy man now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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