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Hi all,

wondered if anyone could point me to any references to decipher the world of parental visas?

I heard once a possible route is for parents to come out on tourist visas then apply when they are here.

im well aware of the 30 year wait,  I am more  looking toward  the contributory route etc that would enable them to come over 

in a post pandemic era of course..

many thanks 

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It's risky to come out on a tourist visa and then wait on a bridging visa - there will be restrictions to travel, restrictions accessing some things due to the temporary status and the biggy that when they were due to get the medical they may have conditions that makes the visa not be granted and they'd be sent back to a country they've not lived in nor have any residency status in.

 

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3 hours ago, magicians said:

Thanks Ali.

sorry for all the questions.

do you know of a reputable agent to contact on this, as it’s so important for me to make sure my parents are properly looked after, I’d like to approach a trustworthy source?

This is the website for Camilla who is well regarded and helps on the forum http://www.newlifedownunder.com.au

You need to be aware though that while the contributory visa is the best option, it still is not quick. Likely timeframe is 8 years and for two parents is in the area of $120,000. 

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is it right that this forum only recommends one migration agent ?

Bearing in mind this company is the one that was recommended to us  but we soon found to be so over priced and customer care skills so poor - that we decided to sort our own visa's ...... and saved a fortune ! 

( might be in my old posts approx 5 - 6 yrs ago )

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Thanks for your honesty Pegg!!!!

I have to admit, I’m finding some really great and sound advice on this forum but also a lot of negative and kind of derogatory advice too.

i fully understand people need to be aware of the straight up facts, but also the (potential) prospect of being reunited with your family is something that should be celebrated and encouraged... 

I think I chatted to you before in another post?

you’re south Perth right?

Wondered if you fancied a coffee at some point? Would love to learn how your got your visas etc? Any tips I can pass on to my parents would be great!

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12 hours ago, magicians said:

Thanks for your honesty Pegg!!!!

I have to admit, I’m finding some really great and sound advice on this forum but also a lot of negative and kind of derogatory advice too.

i fully understand people need to be aware of the straight up facts, but also the (potential) prospect of being reunited with your family is something that should be celebrated and encouraged... 

I think I chatted to you before in another post?

you’re south Perth right?

Wondered if you fancied a coffee at some point? Would love to learn how your got your visas etc? Any tips I can pass on to my parents would be great!

Sorry you find some of the responses negative.  I is important I think to highlight the barriers that might be encountered.

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21 hours ago, pegg said:

is it right that this forum only recommends one migration agent ?

Bearing in mind this company is the one that was recommended to us  but we soon found to be so over priced and customer care skills so poor - that we decided to sort our own visa's ...... and saved a fortune ! 

( might be in my old posts approx 5 - 6 yrs ago )

I personally know many people who have used the company and are extremely happy. Hence, why I am prepared to recommend them. Yes, some people do visas themselves, which is contrary to the advice of the department. Personally, I think that is unwise. Australia makes (in a normal year) about 4000 changes to law and regulations regarding immigration. It publishes about 100 of those. The rest are only briefed to agents. At the current time it is far more complex. For example, the 190 and 491 are effectively closed as the states have not been given any allocation, this was only known to agents until a day ago. 

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Hi Pegg, I am very disappointed to hear your comments. I can honestly say I have never previously had any complaints about my customer service, something that I pride myself on and I am very upset to hear your remarks. Usually my clients feel quite the opposite https://www.facebook.com/pg/NewLifeDownUnder/reviews/?ref=page_internal

Can you please advise me when you contacted me as I would like to see what the problem was. Would appreciate knowing what went wrong as you appear to be defaming my business. Can you please email me any correspondence we had as I am afraid I dont know who you are as you just list as Pegg. Did you come to my office for a consultation, as I would love to look up your case.  If however you did not have a full consultation, resulting in a fee being charged, I am unsure as to why you think I am expensive.  Many people ring me or email me for free advice,  unaware that in order to give legal advice, legislation must firstly be checked, this takes time.  My fees are probably exactly midrange for what Migration Agents charge in WA. My consultation fee is fairly low at $165, most agents are charging more than that and have a 30-45 minute time frame, where often clients are with me for well over 90 minutes.

My email is camilla@newlifedownunder.com.au 

Sorry if I failed to please on this occasion, I would like to address your feedback. Thanks!

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On 04/07/2020 at 12:38, verystormy said:

I personally know many people who have used the company and are extremely happy. Hence, why I am prepared to recommend them. Yes, some people do visas themselves, which is contrary to the advice of the department. Personally, I think that is unwise. Australia makes (in a normal year) about 4000 changes to law and regulations regarding immigration. It publishes about 100 of those. The rest are only briefed to agents. At the current time it is far more complex. For example, the 190 and 491 are effectively closed as the states have not been given any allocation, this was only known to agents until a day ago. 

Thanks verystormy for the kind words and yes you are correct Migration Law is extremely complex and regularly changes! As you are more than aware, for every person like Pegg who applies for their own visa successfully, there are many more applicants who lodge their own visas, resulting in a refusal which then makes it harder for a Migration Agent to try and resolve.  Some interesting watching on SBS, a series called Who Gets to Stay in Australia https://www.sbs.com.au/ondemand/program/who-gets-to-stay-in-australia#:~:text=2.,Gets%20To%20Stay%20In%20Australia%3F&text=This%20episode%20follows%20the%20campaign,if%20the%20mother%20is%20deported. This clearly highlights how many people are refused each year.

I am always amazed at how some people put little value on getting their application right the first time which is often a lifechanging move. The fees that a migration agent charges will pale into insignificance when you sell a house in Australia, yet the real estate agent is highly regarded!!!

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On 03/07/2020 at 14:39, pegg said:

is it right that this forum only recommends one migration agent ?

Bearing in mind this company is the one that was recommended to us  but we soon found to be so over priced and customer care skills so poor - that we decided to sort our own visa's ...... and saved a fortune ! 

( might be in my old posts approx 5 - 6 yrs ago )

Hi Pegg

I have only just seen your comment above about Camilla at New Life Downunder, and have to say that I am extremely surprised that this was your perception of her and her service.   I know a lot of people who have used her (one of whom is my daughter in law), and everyone speaks so highly of her.   I do hope that you will  contact her as she asks in her reply to you, as I feel there might have been some misunderstanding along the way that needs to be sorted out.

 

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20 hours ago, Rossmoyne said:

Hi Pegg

I have only just seen your comment above about Camilla at New Life Downunder, and have to say that I am extremely surprised that this was your perception of her and her service.   I know a lot of people who have used her (one of whom is my daughter in law), and everyone speaks so highly of her.   I do hope that you will  contact her as she asks in her reply to you, as I feel there might have been some misunderstanding along the way that needs to be sorted out.

 

Hi Rossmoyne

Thank you very much for your kind words. Yes it is disappointing to get criticism on a public forum and be unaware why!

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oh dear, sorry to course an upset . 

My real point was that only 1 migration agent ever gets mentioned on this forum ..... And hey - maybe i have got it all wrong , maybe another Camilla from another migration company. It was so long ago i probably have ....... Who knows !

But please remove post as i do believe it was unfair of me posting on a public forum , and that was wrong of me .... I apologise totally for this .

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On 03/07/2020 at 12:34, magicians said:

Thanks for your honesty Pegg!!!!

I have to admit, I’m finding some really great and sound advice on this forum but also a lot of negative and kind of derogatory advice too.

i fully understand people need to be aware of the straight up facts, but also the (potential) prospect of being reunited with your family is something that should be celebrated and encouraged... 

I think I chatted to you before in another post?

you’re south Perth right?

Wondered if you fancied a coffee at some point? Would love to learn how your got your visas etc? Any tips I can pass on to my parents would be great!

Hey guys , so sorry but we are back in the UK , we where due to get out again around January but flights etc from the UK are a nightmare right now !  But yep any advice or a chat just message us . WA was an amazing place - but for us at that time it did not work out , but it still holds a special place in our harts .

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On 02/07/2020 at 20:39, ali said:

It's risky to come out on a tourist visa and then wait on a bridging visa - there will be restrictions to travel, restrictions accessing some things due to the temporary status and the biggy that when they were due to get the medical they may have conditions that makes the visa not be granted and they'd be sent back to a country they've not lived in nor have any residency status in.

 

Just to say that a refusal of an onshore parent visa application doesn't mean an automatic deportation.

Aside from the ability to appeal the decision the subclass 602 Medical Treatment visa should be available as a solution that would allow the parent visa applicants to remain in Australia.

The restriction on travel attaching to the Bridging Visa A that is the visa granted when the holder of a visitor visa applies for an 804 or 864 visa can be overcome with a Bridging Visa B.

Best regards.

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Hi looking for advice, my parents have been refused an aged parent visa today on the grounds of my dad not meeting the health requirement.  My parents are 81 and 82 and have been in Australia since March 2019.  A few months after applying for their visa, my dad was diagnosed with dementia and failed his medical in October 2020.  My mum is OK and has passed her medical.  I am an only child and am a citizen.  As I knew with my dad's diagnosis, it was highly likely their visa would be refused, I have been researching appealing a visa refusal and was ready to go down that route.  However, Home Affairs have called me today say they cannot advise us what to do, but suggested applying for a Sub Class 602 Medical Treatment Visa.   I was shocked to get a call from Home Affairs, but the lady explained she knew I was an only child and wanted to express that they were sorry that this decision had been made.  My dad will need treatment and support as his condition worsens until his death.  My question is if I apply for the 802, and my dad were to die before my mum, where does this leave my mum?  Would we then need to apply for another visa for my mum again?  We have been given 35 days to apply for a 602 medical treatment visa or appeal within 35 days of today's date.   Has anyone been in this situation?  If so, what has been your experience of a 602 medical treatment visa?

Thanks in advance.

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21 hours ago, Candygirl said:

Hi looking for advice, my parents have been refused an aged parent visa today on the grounds of my dad not meeting the health requirement.  My parents are 81 and 82 and have been in Australia since March 2019.  A few months after applying for their visa, my dad was diagnosed with dementia and failed his medical in October 2020.  My mum is OK and has passed her medical.  I am an only child and am a citizen.  As I knew with my dad's diagnosis, it was highly likely their visa would be refused, I have been researching appealing a visa refusal and was ready to go down that route.  However, Home Affairs have called me today say they cannot advise us what to do, but suggested applying for a Sub Class 602 Medical Treatment Visa.   I was shocked to get a call from Home Affairs, but the lady explained she knew I was an only child and wanted to express that they were sorry that this decision had been made.  My dad will need treatment and support as his condition worsens until his death.  My question is if I apply for the 802, and my dad were to die before my mum, where does this leave my mum?  Would we then need to apply for another visa for my mum again?  We have been given 35 days to apply for a 602 medical treatment visa or appeal within 35 days of today's date.   Has anyone been in this situation?  If so, what has been your experience of a 602 medical treatment visa?

Thanks in advance.

You really need professional advice on this. George Lombard is an agent that specialist agent for visas with medical complications 

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